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Tony had some somewhat detailed writings for the following Devils...
47 Ashinaga Tanega Japanese Legend 138 [BLOB - 491 B] [BLOB - 330 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 272 B]
Edit Delete 36 Hannya Japanese Mythology [BLOB - 371 B] [BLOB - 197 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 249 B]
Edit Delete 37 Ihika Japanese Shinto Mythology [BLOB - 456 B] [BLOB - 218 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 100 B]
Edit Delete 19 Agathion Unknown 134 [BLOB - 161 B] [BLOB - 130 B] [BLOB - 7 B] [BLOB - 61 B]
Edit Delete 38 Hag Old Hag, Crone British Folklore [BLOB - 956 B] [BLOB - 193 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 109 B]
Edit Delete 48 Acheri Indian Folklore 142 [BLOB - 308 B] [BLOB - 211 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 69 B]
Edit Delete 45 Agony Christianity 136 [BLOB - 495 B] [BLOB - 264 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 54 B]
Edit Delete 46 Aka-Mant Acamas, Akamant, Akamas Greek Mythology 135 [BLOB - 863 B] [BLOB - 323 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 59 B]
Edit Delete 26 Alp Alp Vampire German Folklore Succubus [BLOB - 1.0 KiB] [BLOB - 154 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 188 B]
Edit Delete 56 Apsaras Acchar� Hindu and Buddhist Mythology Lord Brahma, Gandharva 148 [BLOB - 1.3 KiB] [BLOB - 210 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 166 B]
Edit Delete 30 Pyro Jack Jack Lantern, Jack o' Lantern Irish Folklore 217 [BLOB - 569 B] [BLOB - 365 B] [BLOB - 31 B] [BLOB - 117 B]
Edit Delete 9 Archangel Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism. Angel, Israfel, Gabriel, Michael, Azrael 127 [BLOB - 1.2 KiB] [BLOB - 346 B] [BLOB - 22 B] [BLOB - 91 B]
Edit Delete 53 Ananta Shesha, Ananta Shesha Hindu Religion Vishnu 145 [BLOB - 766 B] [BLOB - 390 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 188 B]
Edit Delete 52 Anat ‘Anat, Antit, Anit, Anti, Anant Northwest Semitic Mythology 144 [BLOB - 576 B] [BLOB - 241 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 80 B]
Edit Delete 54 Anubis Anpu, Anup, Anupu, Wip, Ienpw, Inepu, Yinepu, Inpw, Sekhem Em Pet Egyptian Mythology 146 [BLOB - 2.2 KiB] [BLOB - 270 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 172 B]
Edit Delete 41 Armaiti Spenta Armaiti Zoroastrianism, Persian/Middle Eastern Religion 131 [BLOB - 1.1 KiB] [BLOB - 289 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 262 B]
Edit Delete 18 Azrael Izrail, Azrail, Ashriel, Azaril, Azriel Islam Religion 141 [BLOB - 1.7 KiB] [BLOB - 147 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 59 B]
Edit Delete 7 Incubus Western Medieval Legend Succubus 173 [BLOB - 375 B] [BLOB - 286 B] [BLOB - 10 B] [BLOB - 114 B]
Edit Delete 23 Cait Sith Cat Sidhe, Cait Sidhe Celtic Mythology [BLOB - 1.6 KiB] [BLOB - 141 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 277 B]
Edit Delete 33 Betelgeuse Beetlejuice Astronomy, Tim Burton's "Beetlejuice" [BLOB - 596 B] [BLOB - 219 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 62 B]
Edit Delete 31 Frankie Frankenstein's Monster Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" [BLOB - 1.7 KiB] [BLOB - 223 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 115 B]
Edit Delete 34 Gagison The Grimoire "The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage" [BLOB - 1.2 KiB] [BLOB - 228 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 272 B]
Edit Delete 50 Atys Attis Phrygian Mythology Cybele 143 [BLOB - 1.4 KiB] [BLOB - 229 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 151 B]
Edit Delete 10 Ghoul Arabian Folklore 206 [BLOB - 1.0 KiB] [BLOB - 141 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 58 B]
Edit Delete 55 Apis Hapis, Hapi-Ankh Egyptian Mythology Ptah, Osiris 147 [BLOB - 2.7 KiB] [BLOB - 276 B] [BLOB - 22 B] [BLOB - 211 B]
Edit Delete 12 Queen Mab English Folklore Pixie, High Pixie [BLOB - 465 B] [BLOB - 296 B] [BLOB - 22 B] [BLOB - 146 B]
Edit Delete 43 Erl-king Erlking, Erlkönig German and Scandanavian Folklore 130 [BLOB - 1.0 KiB] [BLOB - 220 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 100 B]
Edit Delete 32 Demi-Nandi Nandi, Nahndi, Nandi Bull Hindu Religion Shiva [BLOB - 895 B] [BLOB - 249 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 91 B]
Edit Delete 44 Airavata Ardha-Matanga, Naga-malla, Arkasodara Hindu Religion 132 [BLOB - 1.4 KiB] [BLOB - 246 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 166 B]
Edit Delete 16 Camazotz Cama-Zotz, Sotz, Zotz Mayan Mythology 180 [BLOB - 772 B] [BLOB - 194 B] [BLOB - 10 B] [BLOB - 98 B]
Edit Delete 6 Jack Frost European Folklore King Frost [BLOB - 758 B] [BLOB - 352 B] [BLOB - 61 B] [BLOB - 63 B]
Edit Delete 39 Jiraiya Japanese Folk Legend [BLOB - 409 B] [BLOB - 191 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 96 B]
Edit Delete 27 Knocker Knackers, Bwca, Bucca, Tommyknockers Welsh/Cornish Folklore Brownies, Dwarves, Leprechauns [BLOB - 1.4 KiB] [BLOB - 233 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 177 B]
Edit Delete 40 Kugutsushi Japanese Folk Legend [BLOB - 228 B] [BLOB - 177 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 161 B]
Edit Delete 15 Azazel Aziel, Azael, Asiel, Hazazel Judeo-Christian and Muslim Relgion 137 [BLOB - 1.1 KiB] [BLOB - 178 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 131 B]
Edit Delete 4 Pixie English Folklore High Pixie, Queen Mab [BLOB - 1.5 KiB] [BLOB - 523 B] [BLOB - 61 B] [BLOB - 73 B]
Edit Delete 13 Raiju Japanese Shinto Mythology [BLOB - 640 B] [BLOB - 162 B] [BLOB - 22 B] [BLOB - 58 B]
Edit Delete 8 Succubus Western Medieval Legend Incubus [BLOB - 967 B] [BLOB - 139 B] [BLOB - 26 B] [BLOB - 100 B]
Edit Delete 24 Cu Sith Cusith Gaelic Mythology [BLOB - 865 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 60 B]
Edit Delete 25 Empousa Empusa Greek Mythology Lamia [BLOB - 522 B] [BLOB - 184 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 99 B]
Edit Delete 11 High Pixie English Folklore Pixie, Queen Mab [BLOB - 261 B] [BLOB - 149 B] [BLOB - 22 B] [BLOB - 69 B]
Edit Delete 51 Aaman Ammit, Ammut, Ahemait Egyptian Mythology 129 [BLOB - 2.3 KiB] [BLOB - 340 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 96 B]
Edit Delete 14 Asp Egyptian 139 [BLOB - 776 B] [BLOB - 184 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 66 B]
Edit Delete 49 Azumi Azumi-no-isora Japanese Shinto Mythology 140 [BLOB - 219 B] [BLOB - 154 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 67 B]
Edit Delete 17 Thrones Ophanim Christianity 245 [BLOB - 251 B] [BLOB - 178 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 100 B]
Edit Delete 35 Ukobach Judeo-Christian Myth [BLOB - 211 B] [BLOB - 178 B] [BLOB - 21 B] [BLOB - 127 B]
Edit Delete 22 Zaccoum Zaqqm Islam Religion, Qu'ran 215 [BLOB - 817 B] [BLOB - 131 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 294 B]
Edit Delete 57 Kodama Japanese/Shinto folklore hamadryads [BLOB - 223 B] [BLOB - 448 B] [BLOB - 0 B] [BLOB - 72 B]
I noticed the writings while backing up the database (I'm doing a major backup initiative for 2009)
I didn't notice them before because they're stored as binary for some reason (the BLOB columns)
I'll try to post that stuff (the Blobs) somewhere sooner or later (not necessarily on the main site) ...I dunno for sure if Tony for sure wrote the stuff up, but it doesn't look like copy/pasted info. Someone else could've been responsible, but it seems like Tony did most everything writing wise at least for the old website. Personally I feel like I've done enough so far to get to take a few years off 
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Sorry to keep you waiting. I already deleted all the spaces between the skill names.
Signature under construction 'cause the last one died.
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Don't mind waiting as long as time keeps moving forward 
Awesome! I'll update the database asap (sometime in the next couple hours)
This will make many more of the English and Japanese skill names show up.
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Good timing with this.... turns out yesterday I broke the links to the Persona lightbox pages when I changed the name of the About Lightbox page 
PS: On the way in here, I noticed it looks like DevilRy finally found his way back... must've been stuck turning tricks for Old St. Nick
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Good timing with this.... turns out yesterday I broke the links to the Persona lightbox pages when I changed the name of the About Lightbox page
Phew! I'm glad! 
Signature under construction 'cause the last one died.
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Me too
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OK!
I fixed the final popup bug. And I also have the images preloading now, so the background won't be black if they've had time to load...
(actually, the biggest hurdle there was realizing the graphics were technically backgrounds and not images  )
So pretty much the core demonary technology is completely finished I think!
I think we should retire this thread too, and make threads for particular databases from now on.
I still need to work out more sorting options for Persona 1, but it's pretty much just a question of filling in the spreadsheets from here on out. So I gotta ask, if we still want to do this or not???
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Sorry to drag this old dog out... but I'd like to know the present sentiment about the whole database half of the "digital devil database"??
I thought I worked out a very efficient system for turning this place into an actual database... the test database went well I thought, but the interest in actual devil databases seemed to drop to nil during the entire process.
I'd just like to know if there is anything I could do to make it easier to add databases to the website. Google Spreadsheet is way more sophisticated than anything I could devise, and I basically take care of everything else.
If you want, we can try to switch over to using the wiki I setup...
http://www.digitaldevildb.com/hell/index.php?title=Welcome_to_Hell
Or at least do a test database from it. Then I can Ajax the wiki pages to import the databases. I don't think that would be more efficient, but it might go over better with volunteers for whatever reasons a psychoanalyst could turn up 
I was going to use that wiki for images, before I got the idea to develop the whole Media Library section into something bigger (which I still have on the drawing board)
I dunno, just seems a shame we don't have more happening in the database dept.
PS: Also Persona PSP is coming out, so it should behoove us to at least finish the P1 database in time
http://www.digitaldevildb.com/demonary/velvet-room/persona/
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I'd be willing to help out since the Persona series was the whole damn reason I got involved in Megaten in the first place (that, and anything that'll give me a better reason as to why my translations are so slow  )
Personally I'd love to see a demon database (as would most fans probably, even though they are somewhat silent) What exactly do you need? If I can help in any way I will
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The two major things we need are Japanese/translated names for stuff (mostly magic) entered into our Google Spreadsheet. And after Atlus USA does it's thing with PSP edition, we'll need the new names it will be using (don't expect them to stick with the Revelations names do you!!)
Then we need to have the tarot card graphics named to match the background graphics so I can add that to the presentation. Then I can finish up the rest of the programming. If we want to go beyond just Persona info, then there is a lot that could be done.
The Google Spreadsheets are here (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=piKSlpkg0llAny-VoXNRkKQ&hl=en)
Pick Persona on the bottom to get to the Persona sheet. It might seem a bit much at first, but it's really the easiest way to do this more or less. However we're really finished with the Persona sheet. What we really need is work in the Stock Terms sheet. Which is basic translation stuff that would apply to most every game. Then after that is finished it can just be copied over into the Persona sheet. There are Persona exclusive terms however. For now though it's probably easiest to just put everything into the stock terms sheet. Later when we have more than one game DB we can copy and prune it to make a general terms sheet(s).
Really I should reprogram the database so the terminology is a separate table. But for now this is easier. The main reason we have the terms in a separate spreadsheet is because Google won't let you sort a subset a rows, so this way you can just enter the terms willy nilly, then sort the row you want, then copy it into another sheet sorted. They don't have to be sorted, but it makes double entries less likely (once we get the bulk stuff in there)
Translation: If you just fill out the stock terms sheet I can do the rest. If you want to help rename the tarot cards, I can think of some way to facilitate that.
PS: To sort, just click the little boxes in the divider over the column you want to sort. Oh and I'll invite you to work on the spreadsheet by email if you still wanna try and help...
PPS: Also, I really don't care how the Japanese names are transliterated into English. But since I did what is there myself, I did it the way I thought was best. Whoever finishes the job can do it however the hell they like.
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Yeah send me an email, managed to locate an Eternal Punishment magic list with the Japanese translations so should be able to at least contribute something to it
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^Well, we don't have an EP page yet, though we do have a spreadsheet for it. Thing is we don't have a P2 section on the website yet, so probably an EP database would be hard to find, though I'm planning on adding a "Special Features" page, so people can go straight to the databases.
Emilio entered everything into these spreadsheets more or less single handedly. I translated the deity names into academic English. Emilio seems to have stopped short with translating everything though. Especially since Revelations doesn't even resemble a Megaten game terminology wise, it seems imperative to translate everything. If you can do the translating work, I'll pitch in and finish the tarot card graphics myself... just to get this all over with. I of course programmed everything... which was a lot of work, being our first database (and the first time the content of the site ever truly lived up to it's name )
Anyway, we have a number of helpful links near the top of the Megami Ibunroku (Persona 1) spreadsheet. Everything you need to know is probably in one of those links. I'll go ahead and invite you to work on the spreadsheets, and I'll try to make sure you're working with them correctly once you get started. But like I said, probably you don't need to edit the Persona spreadsheet now. We really need work on the Stock Terms spreadsheet before we can move the Persona database out of the "Under Construction" section. Let me send you that email...
PS: Thanks for your continued support~
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Had a look at it and translating it shouldn't be too much of a hassle (I hope). But before I get started I just wanna be clear....am I fill in the blank Localizations? or is it something else.... 
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I think what primarily needs doing is to just add rows to the terms table for all the classic stuff like Agi, Bufu, etc. Of course I already did a number of those (can't recall how far I got) ...then there are also a lot of extended magic families, and non-classifiable skills also that can just be tossed into the same bunch. The first field I think is for the Revelations skill name for now. Then there is just Japanese (in romaji -- maybe in kanji/hiragana as well... can't recall) ....and finally there is a field for just a straight best we can do English translation (edited: oh yeah, and don't forget original Japanese game names)
The goal is just to make sure when people are browsing the Megami Ibunroku database, there are no unnamed skills (in each of the three presentations; Revelations, Original, and Unofficial English Translation)
There will be a fourth for Atlus USA's PSP translation after that happens as well. If the reader is viewing the website in Spanish, then they will see Unofficial Spanish Translation instead... but that type of translation will be handled by a different database, so no need to think of it for now.
In short, we just need all the Megami Ibunroku skills indexed
^And later we can do the same for devils, items, etcetera
Edited: You can leave anything you're uncomfortable with blank. It's most important to just get the rows in there.
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