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Do you think its possable?:geno:

If there's enough interest in it. =/ (Though I would rather have them remake all of the Persona series)

I guess it will be the best they can do, of course, ATLUS needs to keep the game like they are, but some new extras, in that way the game is gonna be a lot better.

But, I dont have PS3 anyway!

I don't know if I would want it/them on PS3 at this point, and I am not so hot on what changes they would bring about in a remake. I would rather have straight ports on the PSP or DS if possible. I would love to see a relocalized version of MIP in North America.

But if they do that, I'm talking about a MIP version for North Ameria, they need not to change anything of the game, of course I'm talking about the US remake of the characters, be cause I dont like any of them.

They need to keep the game, like the Japanese version.

I guess I wouldn't really consider that a remake then. Just a better localization. ;)

>> If they make/remake.port any MegaTen on the PS3, I will be sorely disappointed.

I'm not THAT rich.

Yes you're right, I'm saving my money to buy Persona 3, when it comes.

....You should save a little more and pick up Etrian Odyssey when it comes out as well..........

Agreed. Etrian Odyssey is the greatest game ever made.

And what kind of game is that?

First Person dungeon crawler. Think Wizardry, Shining the Holy Ark, early MegaTen.

Okay, but in my opinion, Persona 3 is the best game of playstation. And I'm a big fan of this series, and of course my favorite kind of game, (I'm talking about the story, the main idea of the game, the music, the fun factor and so on).

But of course it will be good to see, this game you talk. But, this game is for nintendo ds? I'm not really know much of it.

Straight ports? Are you kidding me? The game play in Revelations: Persona is, to say the least, terrible. It hasn't aged well at all -- especially when it comes to graphics. I still get lost on the world map, because of how poorly laid out it is. I wouldn't mind an actual remake for the PSP, though, and a decent localization.

I still enjoy the battle system, and I have spoken with quite a few others that enjoy the more deliberate strategic elements to the battle system versus EP/IS system, but the labyrinths do need some work.  I still think the sprites look decent. As for getting lost, I really don't think the world map is that difficult.

The game is ugly. That's all that really needs to be said. A straight port would be pointless -- why even bother if no effort is going to be put into it? The game has been re-released for the PlayStation numerous times -- porting it to the PSP with no actual changes or additions would be ridiculous, and probably wouldn't sell well, either. Remaking it would be the best course of action, especially since a lot of people didn't get into the series [in the U.S.] until after the release of Eternal Punishment, and even in 2000, the game felt extremely dated.

Though, it doesn't matter what console they remake it for, if they did remake it, the chances of it getting localized would be slim to none. SCEA, apparently, has a "no ports" stance, and since Persona is not, and never has been, a very popular series, an exception probably wouldn't be made.

In Japan, yes, but that really doesn't mean anything. Numerous other games including BoF III, VP, and Gradius Gaiden, and quite a few others have had numerous rereleases on PSX and also  received PSP releases. Even if no alterations were made and it was a straight port, the relocalization and the inclusion of the Snow Queen Quest should be enough to qualify as new material.

We will just have to disagree with the looks of MIP.  I don't mind the look of the LoH and Popolocrois titles on PSP, but they aren't anything amazing. Astonishia Story looked like garbage and got a release. Persona would look just as decent, if not better in some cases, as those on a high res screen.  While the PSP has more turn based rpgs to choose from than the DS, none of them are anything to get excited about at this point. A straight port of Persona with a decent localization would almost be one of the best rpgs by default.

Remaking wouldn't necessarily be the best course of action for those of us who prefer the older style SMT titles. None of the SMT titles after Nocturne have been that amazing (I haven't played P3 yet, but I don't care for what I have read). I don't have faith in Atlus in its current state for a competent remake.

But, if they were to remake it, I would imagine all they would really do is upgrade the graphics. I don't see them screwing around with the story or battle mechanics too much. I don't see why they would, anyways. I don't necessarily have a problem with the "older style" Shin Megami Tensei games -- in fact, I prefer them, and would greatly like to see them make another SMT game in the same vein as 1, 2, and if....

And, I agree. Megami Tensei games haven't been all that good lately [I didn't like Nocturne, and despite my username, I thought Digital Devil Saga was terrible], and Persona 3 seems like it's going to be terrible, and the most cliché-ridden of the lot.

edit: Looking at screen shots of Persona, I guess it isn't nearly as ugly as I remembered it to be.

You're probably right about some aspects. I wouldn't mind if the map was upgraded to look like Nocturne or IS/EP. I guess I am just partial to sprite based graphics and would be afraid of what they might be changed to in a remake.

:mad: Come on, you have to be kiding me, Persona 3 is one of the best games I ever saw, and I dont think other titles such as Lucifer's Call or Avatar Tuner, to be as bad as you say, because if you say that, that means you dont like this kind of games at all. In my opinion Persona 3 has a different look from other games, and what about MIP, you say its ugly because you only see or play (I dont know) the US version, and completely forgot about the real version of the game, of course I'm talking about the japanese version. And if the graphics were not of your like, there are plenty of reasons for that, and one of the best I can find, was that, they dont use all the resources of the playstation to its max.

You can see other games, that do not have good cualitu graphics, but the are the best for many aspects, like the music, story, controllers, fun factors and many others things.

What I want to say is, you dont need to judge a game by its graphics, they are well known for they're story or good gameplay. And one last thing, Persona 3 is not an bad game, come on, is one of the BEST!!!!! and of course other Shin Megami Tensei games, are also good cuality games.

You totally missed the point.

LOL @ Emilio Morales

Miss the point? Can someone explain it to me.

No. Re-read the posts in this thread, but try doing so after switching out of "fanboy mode".

Edit: Regarding a remake, I'd like to see an option that would allow us to go through the dungeons in third-person view. I tend to get rather motion sick in games that play in first-person (and Persona was one of those games where I'd get sick). Though, I was fine when playing Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2. Go figure.

Your right, Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 are terrible! I feel bad for anyone who waste their time and money on those 2. Anyone who liked those have no idea. Nocturne and Devil Summoner are awesome. My girlfriend has played Nocturne twice. She loves it, but I tell her Persona 3 is going to be the best Playstation game ever. Im upset I never bought Persona 2. I would have liked it as much as I like Nocturne.

Yes, finally, someone that I understand with! Persona 3 is going to be the best playstation game ever!!

I'll tell you that I got Persona 2 Batsu (Eternal Punishment) and I would like to play Tsumi (Innocent Sin), but in your case, I dont have played Nocturne, but yes Persona 2!

I'm assuming you've played every game on every Sony console, right?

I don't think you can even really compare P3 to past Persona titles either.

What I'm trying to say, is that Persona 3 is the best rpg title until now, becuase, every game I see, I dont feel like is really as good as Persona 3.

But if you want me to be more especific, okay! "Persona 3 is going to be the best rpg game until now!" Oh! I totally forgot: "IN MY OPINION"

But you've never played Persona 3. And, you state, "every game I see," does this mean you've never played the games you're claiming to be not as good as Persona 3? Seems like you're unfairly judging games you haven't even given a chance.

Okay, there are other game that are really good, but one of the most frecuently problems is, that those kind of games make their debut in other consoles, wich I dont have, other games are good, but they are too expensive, and sometimes, those games are not worty of such amount.

But I find that Persona 3 is a good game, and worty of my money. Also there are other games that just look incredible, but they never arrive to my country. But I will repeat myself as many times as possible, Persona 3 is the best game until now, in my opinion.

That's not an opinion. That's an assumption, because you've, apparently, never actually played the game. In order to form a valid opinion, you have to have played the game.

If you had actually played the game, and stated "I've played the game, I enjoy it, and I consider it one of the best games I've ever played," then there would be no problem, because you've played it, you've experienced it, and therefore, you have basis for that opinion.

But, whatever. I guess it doesn't matter. I just don't understand how you can claim it to be "the best" when you haven't played it.

I think we are tired of each other, but lets say this, I have a sixth sense for this kind of things.

LOL This is great. He can't be serious. No way.

What? you dont belive me?

No, not at all. As a matter of fact, I think claiming that you have a sixth sense when it comes to the quality of a game you've never played is ridiculous.

That is the interesting of me eh!?

Oh dear... I think I hear a cuckoo clock chiming...
 
I would rather have something new and shiney and spectacular, instead of trudging through Persona:BYTM over and over and over again. Atlus can't rely on their old franchises to turn a profit. Judging by the popularity of the Persona series, it wouldn't be a worthwhile endeavor to spend so much time and resources on a title that didn't sell very well to begin with. Maybe with the release of P3 more interest will be generated in the Persona series and a remake might then seem feasible, but I highly doubt it.

You can be right, but imagine what would think the old fans of Persona series, they would want to see another game of the serie and with new and better graphics, and a new story and so on.

One more thing, if you think a little, ATLUS is recognize for the franchise of Shin Megami Tensei, and is popular for those kind of games. People who knows well ATLUS, know it because of Shin Megami Tensei games, and of course of other good games of the same company.  

But maybe you're right. Who knows really?

I belive you. I have that sense also.

you kids love to remake stuff... i just want to to reprint the first persona thats all i want besides they have to think about persona 4

A reprint? You can get the game used for $15-$30. Granted, it's not really worth that much money.

I wouldnt like anything like persona for ps3, or else i would be oblied to buy a ps3 Haha. At the moment im saving for a ps2 only to play p3. I thought ps2 was nothing until p3 appeared, now im hypnotized haha.

Another good answer!! Persona 3 KICK ASS!!

I don't understand comments like this. If you are expecting P3 to be anything like previous Persona titles, I think you may be in for a rude shock, but then again, I am only basing this off of what I have read.  BoF DQ, SMT Nocturne, FF XII, and DQ VIII are all solid reasons enough to own a PS2.

One more time, remember, there are people that only likes one kind of games, I'm not saying that other games are bad, just that they look Persona 3 as a good reason to buy a PS 2, and not a reason to buy a PS 2 just to play P3. And he is not saying that other games like you say FF XII and so on, are bad games.

Uhhh, what?

Yeah, i didnt meant to be polemic, in fact i like ff series but i think persona is better and its just an opinion men, lets accept it p3 is better than ff in much ways, at first the fact that they have researched info before making the game.

...But you've never played it [Persona 3], right? So how do you know it's better? How can you claim something is better if you have no experience with what you're claiming to be the superior product? That's a prejudice.

Man, calm down! I HAVE played P3 already, my friend got it, and i dont know what people scream about, Having to shoot tour character in his head, whats the matter? Its not bloody. Is that what you dont like from P3 ? Or the dungeons are just too repetitive, or the fact that you can only explore tartarus? I played FF5 FF9 FF11 and i like them all, also P3 but having to Choose among those I would choose P3, also i understant you are kind of dissapointed, P2 was the best in persona series but what can we do? Tell me you DONT like P3 and you wont give it even a try =)

And here goes again!!! I guess he has a good point when he say about, looking information before making the game, but I will not say FF series are bad, they are one of my favorites RPG, the one I like the most is Final Fantasy VIII.

Don't forget Romancing SaGa.

Also, FFXIII is better than Persona.

I thought about it. ;) Given some of the recent comments regarding RS, I just decided to let it be. While I really like RS, it is similar to Nocturne in that I wouldn't recommend it to just anyone. I believe Yazarc made the same statement.

Plus, in regards to my personal tastes, I would include Wizardry TotFL.

Would it be cool?

Yes.

Impossible?

Pretty much.

I wouldn't mind a remake of Persona on the PS3 but I think it would be more acessible if it was in the PS2, but thats just me.

I'd prefer to see remakes of both the Persona 2 games, since Nazi occultism has become fairly accepted in the States. Still, though, the US might not be ready to see HITLER in a game. V_V

BS.

...........

We have an entire channel dedicated to Hitler. It's called the History Channel. If we can handle seeing him on TV, we can handle seeing a faux version of him in a game. It's not even really Hitler.

The name of that channel is not History Channel... I prefer calling it The Hitler Channel

Who is this Hitler you all keep speaking of?

Hitler appears in the game of "Persona 2 Tsumi" or Innocent Sin. But I guess you dont fight with him, but you fight with his army.

I'm betting you've never even seen the History channel.

Oh, so Hitler is a video game character? Whats the big deal? What kind of army?

I think the army was made up of Neo-Nazis trying to revive Hitler or something in Innocent Sin, and that was the reason why it never made it over here, SCEA didn't approve.

Heh. I know that's a popular belief and that could have been part of it... but, Atlus didn't release Innocent Sin because they simply did not have the financial needs to release two very similar games.

On the official Atlus USA website, before the release of Eternal Punishment in the U.S., it said:


They could've localized if they wanted to, but they didn't. I'd imagine Innocent Sin would've been far more difficult to localize, as well.

Also, SCEA most likely wouldn't have denied the game because of nazis or Hitler, they would've denied it because it's a 2DRPG, one that wouldn't appeal all that much to the masses. They denied the PSX version of Soul Hackers.

Wait, so Sony didn't deny Eternal Punishment, a 2D RPG, but they would have denied Innocent Sin because it's a 2D RPG?

My god you guys are no fun. I was just playing around about Hitler.

Sounds like they wanted Eternal Punishment to make some money before they even considered localizing Innocent Sin.

Who?

This character limit sucks.

I was going to clarify about that in my post, but I didn't feel like it. Perhaps SCEA has a limit on how many niche games one can localize at any one time, and Atlus USA decided Eternal Punishment would be the most successful, and probably the easier of the two to localize, it also has the better battle system. Seems more likely than "lolz atlus didnt have th emoneyz" or "omfg hitlar".

I honestly recall hearing something about companies and a limit on "niche" localizations. I'm not sure if Persona would count as a niche game, but I wouldn't doubt it.

I expected a certain someone to go for it, and they did, but then Aero had to go and ruin my fun.

I play a collectible miniatures game called HorrorClix (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/horrorclix/). Recently, someone brought up the idea of figures based on Nazi occultism, and the thread quickly became very heated and controversial. I was one who supported the idea, since Nazi occultism has become a pretty established form of horror, but the thread proves that there would be a lot of people opposed to putting Hitler in a game.

I definitely wouldn't mind it, but I can see the developer's possible concern.

If the Japanese can handle having Hitler in a video game, then so can we. There will always be people that are opposed to something, doesn't mean we should avoid whatever the hell it is they're opposed to.

I think there's a very large discrepancy between using Nazi-ism in terms of history lessons (even if it's on TV) and using it for a work of fiction.

At the same time, shows like Family Guy seem to reference the guy a few times a year in some way, Seinfeld made jokes about it. Perhaps it's different if it's handled in a more "serious" fictional-ized way. As bizarre as that was in Persona 2, it's certainly not meant to be completely a joke like, say, Hitler's friendly talk show on Family Guy.

There's also countless WWII games, even including random things such as Wolfenstein. So I'm not sure how to take that. Perhaps being able to skew those as war games makes them more acceptable in the eyes of a lot of people.

Innocent Sin surely was skipped over initially because of its content, as Eternal Punishment comes afterwards. I don't think Atlus had much of an intention of bringing it out (hell, Maken X had all of that Nazi imagery removed), but certainly the sales of EP in the US had something to do with it. They don't release their sales figures here, but from all I've read it had underperformed even by their standards.

I guess through all of this is that it displays a lot of double standards and kind of a fine line where it's considered "OK" and "bad". So I don't know, I'm sure even the Family Guy and Seinfeld stuff bothers a good deal of people. In games and comedies I think it's probably smart to avoid it for many business reasons. Certainly other forms of media are less scrutinized than games are nowadays and are accepted it enough to get away with a lot more.

I don't know that I think Atlus would really get in much shit over something like that, but I can see why they'd rather just not bother. I'm sure they don't have a huge team of lawyers or the assets to help turn their image around if it goes poorly.

Removing the Nazi elements from Maken X was a serious blow to it's atmosphere in certain areas. The fight against the Queen would have been much more hard hitting had the swastikas not been removed from the banners. Then there's the guy with the machine gun crotch...

If anyone has a problem with Nazis in a game, grow thicker skin and STFU. I don't want my shit pussified just because a few Jews and vocal special interest groups that are in the minority, not to mention just random idiots that are overly defensive about everything, throw up a big stink about it. If someone doesn't like it, don't buy the game. Nothing gives any of them the right to decide what content I should or should not be able to view in the games I pay money for.

I think SMT needs to incorporate the Zodiac into it's library.

Absolutely. I haven't played  any of the Personas all the way through but the Joker weirdo killer was creepy yet cool.

I think Cammy needs to post more at the Atlus MB.

I would tell what I think Cammy should do, but I would probably be banned. One hint. It involves Tyedye.