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I've noticed a lot of people have been buying a DS or PSP lately -- anyone here own either one of these, or are thinking about buying one of them? What are your thoughts on them? Which one do you want, or seems more appealing?

For me, I'm more interested in PSP -- it just seems more appealing -- a lot of extra features that kind of make it seem a lot more worthwhile. Both handhelds, from what I've seen, are really lacking when it comes to games, and I haven't really read of any future releases that seem to be worthwhile. DS has that Stylus, which honestly feels like it'd be more of an annoyance -- something I'd rather not bother with. DS is going to have that RE1 remake, but I've read a bit about it, and, as per usual, it seems like it'll be a lot more annoying than it's actually worth.


So, yeah, ultimately, I'd go with the PSP. It just seems that Sony has served me a lot better than Nintendo ever has, and thus, I'm more inclined to trust Sony. Though, if I could, I'd probably buy both, just for the hell of it. Though, as I said, both really seem to be lacking games, so, I'm not sure if either would be worth it. At least, not now, but maybe in the future (early to mid- next year, possibly.)

The ultimate factor for buying any console are the games. Example: Xbox has higher capabilites, still most ppl has PS2. But I have to agree with you, PSP seems much more appealing.

Well, it's not really hard for me to go with the Nintendo DS.  For one, most of the games on PSP aren't really my type of games.  Second, Nintendo has been making handhelds for a lot longer than Sony has, so I trust them more when choosing handhelds.  I'd also say, I perfer innovation over features, especially when it comes to the Nintendo DS.  It's fun how game developers are making games for the DS and using the stylus in different ways.

No, I'm not going to include the prices of the system in my decision.  I could have easily gone off and bought a PSP if I wanted to, but I didn't want to.  And I don't really hate Sony either.  Because like I said, I like them better for their consoles.

So all in all, I'm going to have to say the Nintendo DS is a better choice.  But then again, I'd buy both if I could.  Most likely for the same reason Heat has said, just for the hell of it.

Eh. Nintendo may have more experience, but when it comes to games, they've really been lacking -- at least, I think so. Pretty much all of the games I've wanted to play have been on a Sony system, and the games I did want to play that were on a Nintendo console wound up... Sucking. I think the last game on a Nintendo console I actually enjoyed was Harvest Moon 64 for the Nintendo 64. And was in 1999. So, I choose Sony generally because they've had the best line-ups. Though, as I've mentioned, neither handhelds have many games at the moment, and the ones they do have are games I'm not really interested in.

I think the only reason I'd be interested in DS is the new Harvest Moon and Shin Megami Tensei games that are supposedly going to be released. But, I'm definitely not going to buy a DS just for those games -- I bought a GameCube for 2 games that were to come out, and they were both disappointing. I also bought a GBASP, but games were impossible to see without the backlight on, which ate up a bit of battery power, that, and the damn things are so small -- I utlimately wound up just emulating GBA games, heh.

I have a DS, but I've played a PSP plenty of times because my brother has one. It largely just came down to me having the money when the DS came out and not having it when the PSP came out.

I have no use for the PSP's other functions. I have a great MP3 player already and I'd fill up any Memory Stick I could afford in a second (not to mention the battery life would be an issue). I'm not concerned with viewing photos either.

Game wise, it just depends. The PSP has probably around six games I'd say I would be really interested in having (Lumines, Hot Shots Golf, Wipeout Pure, Ridge Racers, etc), so I don't think it's lacking in already released stuff. However, it's pretty clear that there's not much of interest coming out for it in the US for quite some time. It's been in a very long lull and according to literally every website and magazine I've read that has to do with games, it had an insanely disappointing E3 showing as well. That's compared to the DS which apparently had a very strong showing... much to my surprise.

Nintendo has had some issues with "great" games as of late, I agree. However, I can't say that issue has really carried over to the handheld format quite as badly (well, aside from something like Mario Pinball, which was outside developed). I have about six games on my DS that I really enjoy and there's actually a few more out now I'd like to get (Advance Wars DS for one) and several others coming out this year that I'm interested in.

So, like with anything, it's really just what's coming out that catches your attention. I'm sure I'll be buying a PSP someday, but as of right now I'm very happy with the DS. I don't really feel a need to compare them in a "versus" format because, in many ways, I feel they're doing different things.

For me personally, the main draw for the PSP is the emulation possibilities(although strangely the SNES emulator for DS apparently works better right now; not that I have the proper cart stuff to use it lol). The NES apparently works great already and the others are getting better as time goes on. PSP firmware updates are an issue, but they're always gotten around eventually.

I have a DS, and I love it. I guess the reason I bought it originally was that Atlus has a Shin Megami Tensei DS game in the works, plus it's region free.

I have both. But to tell you the truth, I barely touch my PSP. I take my DS everywhere. There is just so many things that make the DS better. It focuses on games not on useless iPod-ish extras. Trauma Center rox!

I also have both, and i agree completely. PSP is dead sexy, but if you want great games, the DS is where its at...as for portables anyways, i'm still a PS2 kind of guy.

I'll pick the PSP over the DS because of the various multi media features and the future release of Jewel Summoner...

Even though it has some great games, the PSP is the "Retarded kid at Wal-Mart that you can't laugh at because he has a giant dad behind him" of the video game world.

Sony has just done so many things to make the PSP unappealing to me...most of all, they treated it like a home console over a hand-held. When I look at hand-held gaming, I'm really looking for something cheap but fun to tide me over when I'm not at home. The DS does this perfectly, with a $150 console and $30-40 games as opposed to PSP's $200-$300 console and $40-50 games.

Then there was the whole Lik-Sang situation, which really turned me off from Sony.

I'll definitely have to go with the DS.

The only real complaint I have with the DS is that not enough developers are utilizing it's unique features very well. It seems like too many games are merely GBA titles with a few DS features tacked on. More games like Feel the Magic, Trace Memory, and Hotel Dusk, please. Games that just cannot be done on another platform. I'm not saying everything has to be that way, but more than what we have would be nice.

Have to agree with Sayck here, DS has more good games than PSP right now, and a lot of it are good titles: SRW W, Trauma Center, Contact...

I think that nowadays, there is a trend to shift over to innvation rather than graphics, and that may be why the DS is doing so well. This is good, becuase I have a DS and I'm pleased at the great selection of games.

DS. The damned PSP feels like it is going to bust everytime I use it.

The d-pad on the DS is garbage, BTW.

Though the original version was a little clunky, I liked the DS a lot too. Never really seen much of a PSP though, in terms of playing games.

I got the PSP mainly for the homebrew (the emulators are nice, especially the hacked official PSX one), music (I don't have an ipod), videos (full resolution), and some games (Monster Hunter Freedom, Innocent Life, and some others) but basically the PSP is nothing without Homebrew. Though it is building a decent library of games like Crisis Core, FFT Remake, MGS:PO, Castlevania X Chronicles, Innocent Life.

DS has more variety and 3rd party support, but so far there isn't really anything that appeals to me personally (that would change if they released Golden Sun 3, why are you leaving me with a cliffhanger Nintendo!)

I feel the same as well with the DS,there are maybe 2 or 3 games I would want for it,but it is just not enough to convince me to go out and buy one.

My PSP collection is rather small,but with these new PSP titles coming along,I'm glad I got one,not to mention the Region free on there.

I eventually wound up buying both.

The DS is region free too, I think.

Best thing to do. I go through phases where I play one way more than the other. Being more objective months and months later, I have to say I like them both... but for very different types of games.

I have them both. I had to exchange my PSP, which was purchased brand new, within a matter of weeks because it was locking/freezing up. I haven't even opened the box for the new unit. The thing just feels like it is going to bust in my hands.

^WTF, dude. I'll buy your PSP off of you since you're not even using it.

Nah, I would want to sell it over retail since I sort of got screwed. I purchased roughly 3 weeks before the price drop. :sick:

You should sell it on Ebay or something, Gamestop and retail stores buy your stuff at a really low price, which is a rip-off.

I think that's why I never ventured to put down the cash for a PSP. I understood why it was that price, but it's just so shiny and flashy and does so much that I'd be afraid to use it. All my Nintendo handhelds, on the other hand, were designed to withstand the force of whatever even a crazed toddler can throw at it. It scares me how young of an age group they'll make stuff for game boy's.

I hate my clunky first generation DS though. XD

I don't have either.

I've forsaken handheld gaming since the GBA SP when I realized I could be playing better games on my PS2.

You mean there's no handheld games that hold a soft spot for you? Maybe I just played the gameboy too much when I was growing up. XD

The GameBoy Advance was terrible. I can't name a singe game that I would consider even "above average". I hate the idea of paying for handheld consoles and games, too bad Nintendo DS emulators are mediocre, and apparently, there are no PSP emulators. Someday.

I thought the GBA had a decent library, the Golden Sun and Castlevania series were good, I also liked the Boktai games (the ones that you had to go outside in the sun to play).

I always liked the Harvest Moon series for the game boys. Even over the console versions.

Harvest Moon hasn't been good since Harvest Moon 64. Everything after that has been absolutely terrible. Harvest Moon (SNES) and Harvest Moon 64 are the only ones I still play.

Also, the controls in Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town are terrible. I would constantly accidentally drop an item or eat it, or use a tool when I didn't want to. Very annoying. Didn't like Friends of Mineral Town too much, as it felt too much liked a souped-up Back to Nature, and Back to Nature was terribly boring. Though, it wasn't nearly as bad as garbage like Save the Homeland, A Wonderful Life, and Magical Melody. Magical Melody is probably the worst in the series, though.

I like the older, handheld versions for HM mostly. I've never liked any of the console version except the 64 one. Wasn't FOMT basically HM64, but with game-boy style graphics and some story switched around?

No. It was an enhanced Back to Nature.

Bloody heck. I don't know how some of you keep track of games and all the names. I'm starting to confuse them all now. -_- Ehh.

I play Back to Nature on my PSP once in a while and I'm currently playing Innocent Life: A futuristic Harvest Moon. Innocent Life is alright so far, but the lack of social interactions and marriage (b/c the main character is an android) really sucks, the game had a lot of potential.

That game looked ridiculous to begin with. I was more interested in Rune Factory.

Rune Factory? Whatever happened with that? That's what I wanted to try out in lieu of Harvest Moon DS. Has anyone played that one?

And a futuristic HM? Are you serious? O_o Never thought I'd see the day..

It'll be released in North America May 2nd, supposedly.

*ahem* Whoo!

Yggdra Union is way above average.

I don't care much for strategy-RPGs. Did anyone else find it odd that they had a 12-year-old girl that speaks in the third-person named "Nietzsche".

Innocent Life isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be, and the jeep rocks, I just got it last night. But like I said, the lack of social interactions, a huge part of HM, was lame.

I'm interested in Rune Factory too, I wonder how the hack and slash gameplay will turn out.

As was Advance Wars 1 & 2. Or as I like to call them, Nectaris Lite.

Military Madness (for the TurboGrafx-16, at least) was awesome.

Yes it was. It was a shame Neo Nectaris wasn't released in the 'states for the TurboDuo.  I would love an update on the DS.

lol Yes, actually.


1. I just asked you about this at another forum.

2. You unknowingly answered my question here.

^I checked out the other forum first.....

I'd go for my PSP anyday. With a 4GB card, I can have all the music/videos/game saves I want and the games for the PSP are damned good. I currently own Valkyrie Profile, Innocent Life - A Futuristic Harvest Moon, Tales of Eternia, Monster Hunter, Tekken - Dark Resurrection, LocoRoco and Blade Dancer.

 Ok so Blade Dancer isn't that good, but other games are coming out that sound pretty cool. There's Monster Hunter 2, Riviera - The Promised Land, Brave Story - A Travellers Tale, Tales of the World - Radiant Mythology, Tales of  Phantasia - Full Voice Edition, Tales of Rebirth, Dragoneer's Aria and others. For someone who mostly plays RPGs anyway, this is more than whats being released on the next-gens right now.

Plus I can play them on the train and long car journeys : D

Brave Story is good, one of the best RPGs on the PSP, definitely worth buying.

^LOL Like that's a difficult thing to accomplish.

heh, yeah...

Personally, as someone who's owned both, I'm going with psp for numerous reasons.

1. Most of DS' line up is overrated and never delivers.
2. PSP's games feel more geared towards being played on the road than DS.
3. PSP has more technical prowress.
4. PSP has more interesting games.
5. PSP hacks are awesome. Being able to play psx games on the psp? Hell yes.

I never understood why Nintendo fans seem to think that Nintendo is the only option in the handheld market and act like PSP is a failure, when it isn't. Anything looks like a failure in comparison to the DS, who's popularity is unlike anything we've seen before in regards to handhelds.

PSP's worthwhile games vs DS' worthwhile games:


Wipeout Pure
Metal Gear Acid
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Lumines (ported to ps2 called Lumines Plus, but that type of game is better on the go)
Lumines II
Intelligent Qube Mania
Every Extend Extra
Gurumin
Ultimate Ghouls N' Ghosts
Hot Shots Golf Open Tee
Sid Meier's Pirates! (perfect handheld game)
Metal Slug Anthology
Megaman Maverick Hunter X
Megaman Powered Up
Ridge Racers
Loco Roco
Tokobot (ps2 port available)
Exit
Powerstone Collection
PQ2: Practical Intelligence Quotient
Sega Genesis Collection (perfect handheld game)
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (for those who can't get ahold of the original version0
Gunpey
Gradius collection
Outrun 2006
Capcom Collection remixed (perfect handheld game!)
Capcom Collection reloaded (perfect handheld game!)
Parodius Collection
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology
Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories
GTA: Vice City Stories
Guilty Gear Judgment
Breath of Fire III (Euro Import)
Princess Crown (Asia Import, unless you want to spend 60-100 dollars on the Saturn game)
Tales of Eternia (Euro Import)
Daxter
Mercury Meltdown
After Burner: Black Falcon


vs

Phoenix Wright
Phoenix Wright 2
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Yoshi's Island 2
Etrian Odyssey
Kirby Canvas Curse
Advance Wars Dual Strike
Ouendan 1
Ouendan 2
Elite Beat Agents

Not to mention, psp's 2007 line up is damn good and makes ds' look like a joke. The only interesting games on the horizon for ds are the Dragon Quest remakes. PSP has got it all covered though, especially if you're a fan of strategy games.

Worthwhile PSP games on the way:

Jeane D'Arc - strategy rpg
Wild Arms XF - strategy rpg
R-type Tactics - turn based strategy
Final Fantasy Tactics (and not that shitty Final Fantasy Tactics Advance bullcrap) - strategy rpg
Wipeout Pulse

Worthwhile DS games on the way:

Phoenix Wright 3
Dragon Quest IV-VI
Dragon Quest Joker

PSP is for the hardcore gamer. DS is for the gamer who likes gimmicks. When someone tells me that psp doesn't have any games, I laugh, because that tells me that 1. They're Nintendo fanboys who feel that it's impossible for another handheld to compliment a Nintendo handheld because "Nintendo is the best" and 2. They haven't even bothered to look.

I don't know, I think the DS has more worthwhile games for that. Honestly, a lot of the "best" PSP games I give up on pretty soon after getting them. I really don't think stuff like Loco Roco, Gurumin, Gunpey or Tokobot are must owns, personally.

Unfortunately, almost every single time I've tried a game on it that had been hyped up to hell (New Super Mario Bros for example) it was simply disappointing. From Hotel Dusk, which was an extremely average adventure, especially if you're familiar with pc point and clicks; Megaman ZX, which was extremely poor when it comes to Megaman standards, especially after coming off the Zero series; to Castlevania Dawn of Sorry, which was basically Aria of Sorrow, only not nearly as good; I've found the majority of ds games I've played to be disappointing.

I've come to the point where I really don't listen to anyone regarding DS games. I still like the ds, if only for Portrait of Ruin (<3), but I find the line up weak overall. Definitely a minority opinion on the issue.

I agree with Tony, the DS has a lot more worthwhile games then that. To be honest, I'd probably use my PSP more for music and videos if it wasn't for homebrew and the Custom Firmware. The PSP does have good games, but it needs more original ones like Silent Hill Zero and Brave Story.

A good number of the titles you list for PSP are compilations (and at least in my case, I own many of the games on many of the comps), and a few are ports. If you knock that down to original titles, the PSP list isn't nearly as extensive.


Lame. Reminds me of Kupomogli.

Nearly all of the upcoming PSP titles are in one genre, and you listed five. You listed 6 DS titles. Even though this is based purely on your own opinion, that isn't overwhelming support.

It doesn't really need overwhelming support.

When it comes to the compilations, I think that's a good thing, because a lot of the games on them are great for handheld gaming. Sega Genesis Collection in particular. Phantasy Star II and IV on the go? Yes please.

Well, I'm glad someone agrees with me on that one. It's decent, but man. It saddens me that it's sold so much more than far better entries in the series. Stupid new power ups, poor level layouts, way too many lives. I don't like it much.

How are psp games better geared for roadplay than ds? I'm surprised the psp is even considered a "portable" handheld. The thing has a miserable battery life and even in sleep mode quickly consumes energy. Also most psp games are nearly console games, usually ports, which require a good amount of sitdown time to adequately play. This is mostly a complement to the system, but I consider most ds titles more apt for quick fixes. (That is except for the point and click titles, or adventure games.) I own both a psp and ds. Currently I play my ds far more than my psp. I'll agree that most upcoming psp titles look fantastic, and there are numerous ds titles you forgot to mention. (It's A Wonderful World, Contra IV, FFCC:Rings of Fate, Front Mission, Phantom Hourglass, Ninja Gaiden, on and on and on.) So as it stands ds edges psp out, for me anyway, as the best handheld on the market, right now.

I also completly agree that both Megaman ZX and New Super Mario Bros blew.

When I said that, I generally meant in regards to my tastes. When I play portables, I want to play arcade games and games I can play over and over. DS has barely got shmups, worthwhile racing games, and the like. I prefer those over, say, adventure games when it comes to portable games, and especially big name franchises like Dragon Quest. I would rather play Dragon Quest IX on a tv than on a ds.

As for the games you bring up:

It's A Wonderful World - I don't like Nomura games. They're usually style over substance.

Contra IV - Contra IV is a possible buy, but that is not assured as of now because I'm wary of the developer. It's not by the people who made Shattered Soldier or Konami. No, it's developed by the people who brought us Sigma Star Saga and Ping Pals. Ugh.

FFCC:Rings of Fate - I think FFCC was average, so I don't really want to bother with the new game.

Front Mission - I'm not a Front Mission fan.

Phantom Hourglass - The touch controls look gimmicky and non Nintendo diehards have said that the game is pretty boring. I'd rather believe them than the Nintendo die hards.

Ninja Gaiden - This game looks horrible and gimmicky. It looks like they wanted to make a shooter in the Kikikaikai vein, but it looks so mind numbingly dull and boring. Why they opted to make it that instead of traditional side scroller Ninja Gaiden or an actually decent 3d Ninja Gaiden for the psp where they can actally use the technology to its advantage, I don't know.

Ah, I reside in the opposite camp. Not much of a fan of sports games or racing, except for Burnout or Hot Shots "Anything".

Awesome, I'll look forward to buying it.

I can see where Himuro is coming from in regards to Nindy fanboys. Many people on my course say the DS is brilliant and the PSP is shite. But guess what? They all own PSPs. I know three people that have DS' and around six people that have PSPs (excluding myself). Now, this is just my personal experience, but whenever I ask people why the DS is better, the answer usually is "Because Nintendo made it" or "The games are more original". In the end, it's all up the personal preference - I like playing RPGs, so I bought a PSP - but keep in mind this is the first handheld console Sony has made (I think) and I think it's doing pretty damn well against handheld veterans Nintendo and the DS.

I hate normal sports games, unless they're Virtua Tennis (which is also on psp). I like ARCADE sports games. Things like Burnout and Wipeout put a smile on my face. Things like Hot Shots turn me into a Cheshire cat.


From my experience people who say psp is "shit" are Nintendo fanboys and if that's the case, I usually don't even bother because there's no reasoning with a Nintendo fanboy.

This is true, only because developers seem to be a bit more daring with ds titles. If psp received more support, games like Loco Rocco could become very common. It has the technical power to create numerous innovative physics games. Which seems to be the path developers choose if new gameplay options aren't available. The developer's pendulum swings towards whichever platform has the largest user base.


To this day I'll occasionally pull out my saturn to play the original wipeout. The month Hot Shots Golf hits the US, is the month I buy a PS3.

It's true that ds games are more original, but I don't think for a minute that original = better. It always depends on how it's delivered. In many cases, I've found that "original" games simply have original concepts, but the delivery often feels half assed and not to polished. Case in post: Okami, Bully;etc. ad infinitum.

Oh yeah, I forgot one that's coming to the psp that gets my pants tight: Castlevania Dracula X.

Good point, but some people mix up "original" with "extremely Japanese". It irritates me when people think that because it's Japanese it's super-special-awesome. Also, some games that have come over from Japan seem bizarre. There's one DS game - a waitress one where you have to deliver food or something (why would I want to play that?) - that seems alien to me. This is because the DS is huge huge huge in Japan and thus most games are going to be catered for the Japanese.

This. On point, Lycan.

The guys doing Contra IV also did Shantae, so I'm giving them the benefit of a doubt. The videos for it look pretty hot, at least.

Never played Shantae unfortunately. :( I'm sure I would be more excited for Contra IV if I had played it.

You guys are making me look more towards a PSP with all this talk. I think I'm becoming a handheld gamer. So Brave Story is my best bet for an RPG on the PSP or what are your opinions? I find I've had some trouble getting into most handheld RPG's, like Golden Sun for example. Maybe the higher-end-ness of the PSP will help me get over that. Or maybe I should just stick to reading novels. lol

I think most handheld rpgs suck for the most part , at least in comparison to their console and pc counterparts.

If you didn't like Golden Sun, you might want to try out Brave Story before you buy it, it is the best RPG on the PSP (good graphics, interesting story, a simple turn-based battle system, random encounters) but it's not as deep as other RPGs or really unique.

Check out some reviews:
http://www.gamestats.com/objects/815/815521/

So what games are worth it on handhelds these days? I was a big fan of the Harvest Moon series and Pokemon back in the day and am looking for something new and good. Maybe I'm just feeling too old for video games these days, who knows. I'm sure I'll find something good.

Cammy, Ys: Ark of Napishtim, if you get a PSP.

I still gotta play Y's book of 1 and 2 for TG-16

They're releasing Rune Factory: A Fantasy RPG for the DS on the same day P3 comes out, it's a Hack and Slash game with Harvest Moon's farming and marriage system. A lot of HM fans say it's really good.

Also a sequel to the main series (BTN, AWL, etc) is coming out in February, with  new characters and is set on an island.

http://www.natsume.com/graphics/e32006/E307.pdf

I'm a fan of the HM series as well, and I'm going to get a DS lite in the future to play those games as well.

Ys has terrible loading times on the PSP, if you get it I highly recommend playing it from the memory stick.

I get just as sick of this response -- it seems that it is just a convient excuse to dismiss people who are interested in the DS.

 I desperately wanted another handheld outside of a Nintendo produced one to succeed in the past. I owned a Lynx, GG, and NGPC (and a Wonderswan after I purchased a GBA) before I ever bought a Nintendo handheld. I love 2-D titles. To me, the Gameboy Advance and DS were the last bastions for traditional sprite driven 2-D. Sure there are some that pop up on consoles, but they are far and few between. I might also add I was not interested in the DS in the least when it launched, but there is a reason why Nintendo handhelds do so well outside of what you see as pure fanboyism. They are quality machines. The machine with the best specs doesn't always win, especially in the world of handhelds.

Nintendo also builds quality hardware for the most part. I am extremely careful and protective of my junk. I purchased my PSP brand new, and it had severe issues crashing and locking up from the get go. I also worked at GS during the PSP launch and saw numerous units returned and exchanged. The PSP unit feels rickety in my hands and it bugs the hell out of me. You can call the DS gimmicky, but the PSP employs just as many 'gimmicks' to attract sales.



Or most people you know that own PSPs also own DS units. See how that works both ways? I would think you would rather they own both to make a proper assessment.

There's no way I could afford the two latest handhelds. The PSP retails at £150 and the DS at £100. I am NOT spending near £300 on bloody handhelds. For me, it was either one or the other and the PSP is what interested me most as a RPG player. My PSP has never broken and never stalled even though I've dropped it twice (it has a slight crack on the bottom of the faceplate, but naught else).

Although I have heard of games/consoles having problems in America and Japan, but when they are released in Europe there's not really any problems. I think the PS2 and original X-Box had issues but the DS and PSP didn't. Over here, neither one is doing better than the other (I think).

There's two people - both second years - on my course that own a PSP and a DS. One likes the DS for all the manga/anime fight em ups (the Shonen Jump one with Light, Ichigo etc) whilst he plays the PSP purely for Monster Hunter. There's something of a huge Monster Hunter thing going on there, with about 20 people - combined from all the years - playing it because of the multi-player aspect (myself included - I've racked up 600 hours on the damn thing). Think of it as Warcraft on PSP.

Asking them which one is better is a little pointless - obviously they like both because they spent the money on them. They prolly just play them for different reasons - PSP for RPGs (he plays Profile) and multiplayer and the DS for the Japanese games (he imports them and he can read Japanese, I believe).

Monster Hunter needs infrastructure mode.

I've had my PSP for a while, near the release date actually. Haven't had a single problem with it. So far, I've only bought a few games, as I'm not too huge on hand helds. I did actually buy a DS when it came out, but was so bored with it I ended up returning it within the span of a week. That's why I never say things like "The PSP ownz teh DS" since I haven't played with the DS enough.

But other than that, the PSP has been great. I seriously hope that more great games come out for it. I only played a few, and read about some other good ones. I actually have had my eye on a few PSP titles for a while, but the console games got my money first.

The fact is that while sony may have the hardware the DS has the games.

Especially the kind of unusual japanese games like Trauma centre and Phheonix Wright.

I dont have the right to say which is the better as I only own a DS but ive never regretted my purchase

Phoenix Wright isn't that unusual. It takes the standard point and click adventure game format and makes 9999 x the trial and error.

Can't agree 100% with that...with quite a few cases I already knew where everdence was going to fit it and immdetly saw ways to advance the game...Tell the truth, at times its almost as if they trow the answer in your face as if you couldn't figue it out yourself! ;-;

Though as far as DS vs. PSP goes...one has major gaming advatage with Wi-Fi, sigle cart play, and an option for better immerson then just pressing a few buttons....Though PSP has shown us some NICE visurals and it becomes a mp3 player on the go when gamings too combersome.

Each has its place, and due to the game base both boast its hard to call one "Better" then another without getting into the technology that drives both...but to do that for a system isn't the best jugdement...( Jaguar and 32x are grand examples of this...powerful systems for there times...yet realy bad gaming support killed them both. )

I love PW, but my biggest problem with is that it feels so linear compared to other adventure games. Like, I can't do something unless the game has come to the point where it'll let me present it.

Oh man I love PW. I wanna replay them both before 3 comes out.

Yes...I do know what you mean! XD
Case 3 in the first one was like that to the end...you KNOW how it works out, yet you have to take a REALY odd way to convince the judge...;-;

At least it gets partly better later on as far as story progression goes...But ya...VERY linear compared to say Myst, Clock Tower, or my fav Sam & Max. Then again its one of the few to foucs on the charaters of the story then the plot so its a interesting change of pase...But in all honestly it could be a digital grafic noval and be slightly better. XD

Right now I have a DS. It's blue and one of the old chunky versions.
I like it because of all the different types of games that are on it, and that I can also  play my old GBA games like Fire Emblem and Lunar on it.
 I don't think I'm going to get a PSP, but I do like the fact that it has Parappa the Rappa and Darkstalkers. it's just that most of the games on it are pretty low-qual besides some puzzle games and RPG's that are being released on it.

I wouldn't go right to saying that. Daxter, Syphon Filter, MGS: PO, Tekken, Rachet and Clank, Killzone, GTA (I find these games boring, but they aren't low quality), Socom, Megaman. The list goes on, just go find a list of all the PSP titles out right now.

Although it isn't as big as the DS, the PSP still has a good amount of good quality games. Although I wouldn't have fun with most of them, I can be sure that they aren't low quality(I rented a few and they were pretty cool). So easily dismissing the PSP like that, saying it only has puzzle and RPGs, isn't correct. If I didn't have console games that I was more interested in, my PSP collection would easily be much larger.

well ive got both

but in the end of the day ill say this. they're both good at doing what they do. PSP is the big motherload of entertainment and gaming, and the nintendo DS is the fun interactive console. the PSP has on its side 3d gaming, videos, and things youd expect from a media player. the DS has got 2 screens (i know, state the obvious), which allow interactivity into games.

people may say that ones better than the other, but i dont share that oppinion. after all, you could never do, say, metal gear solid portable ops on the DS, but you could never have trauma centre on the PSP. they both do different things. and yes the PSP can do more, but thats why its got a higher price tag, and as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.

I have a psp, I always bring it with me whenever I leave my house. It's right in front of me. I have SHO in right now.

I really like the psp, in theory. But since Emulation/Iso use for the psp is so easy and widespread that not a lot of effort is spent making games for it cause the sales are always so low... or atleast that's my understanding of why there are very few good games for it.