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I figured I'd make this thread to answer general questions about the game. I'm finding that a lot of people still have things they want to know that remain unanswered by others.

So if there's something you want to know about the game, how it works, general tips or whatever else, just ask them here. I'll answer them the best I can.

:mickey:

I want to know if the only way to earn new Personas, is after battle. Or is like other Persona games, that Igor exchange them to you for tarot cards?

Will you send me your review copy? :PP

And seriously - are there any connections with past Persona games storywise? For example - is Igor refering to heroes of past Persona games when he says to silent protagonist on his first visit in Velvet Room about not seeing guests for a long time?

Both. You start out with one, so essentially gaining them through Shuffle is the only way to expand your deck at first. This essentially replaces having to talk to enemies in order to gain Tarot cards, such as in Persona 2.

You can then fuse together 2 or more Personae when you're in the Velvet Room


No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :rambo:

Anyway... I've not seen any real connections. [SPOILER]You could construe that Igor is referring to them specifically, but I really can not say at this point. There is that MMORPG that makes some references to older titles, but obviously it's just for fun.[/SPOILER]

Difficulty?

Normal is manageable. It's not as hard as Nocturne by a long shot and I think the One More Turn system is a bit more forgivable just by its nature.

I've died several times. There are situations where I found myself simply having the wrong Persona equipped, get ambushed by an enemy and they just take care of your weakness over and over again. If your main character is knocked down when his turn comes up, you can't make any new decisions... I've been completely screwed this way a few times now. You might also find yourself slightly unprepared for bosses, but it's mostly a matter of leveling up yourself and figuring out which Persona to use.

Status effect spells cannot be stacked either. So if you use some random -kaja spell, it'll last three rounds and the disappear. This eases up things a bit too.

It's harder than maybe the average mainstream RPG, I suppose. I don't want to give the impression that it's not challenging, either (getting some of the Requests taken care of help bump this up a bit). So far I'd basically just say it's middle of the road.

So you get a game over your main character dies, right?

Also, how would you say you like it compared to the other SMT's you've played?

Hard difficulty it is, then.

It doesn't have a hard mode.

Easy and Normal are it. I don't think even SMT veterans are simply going to breeze through the game on Normal, though. Not to mention that every thing points to it being long. On average, a month of time has taken me 6 to 10 hours, I would say, excluding dying and restarting. If it keeps up that pace we're probably talking a good 70+ hours.

In Normal if you die, that's it. You have to reload a save. I believe Easy allows you to continue up to 10 times over the course of the game without reloading, but I've not personally played it.

As for liking it, it's certainly better than Devil Summoner and DDS. I liked both of those games to a degree (DDS moreso than Devil Summoner, but both were pretty average), but Persona 3 is just far superior to them. Based on my playtime, I'd say it's one of the best RPGs on the system altogether. It's pretty different from other games throughout the franchise, including previous Persona titles, but that's just it... it's different. Some people might take this to be a bad thing, but I think most of the changes work out very well (I think anyone is going to miss the demon conversations, though... as they were always the most developed in this series). I don't even have many complaints about the AI, as much as it surprises me.

Glad you're enjoying it Tony.

I can understand why you'd call DDS and DS average, but I still enjoyed those a good amount. I think that DDS was an excellent take on the more traditional rpg, and I greatly prefer it to all the other more traditional rpgs on the system. That said, I can understand why an SMT fan can find DDS to be lacking.

Devil Summoner was an interesting and fun game, but very experimental. Some of its experiments worked, but for the most part it felt like a pretty flawed experimental game. Persona 3 comes off as experimental itself, but the difference there is that where DS failed, it appears that P3 has succeeded.

Can't wait.

sounds great it's been awhile since I play a very long game and got very into it. hopefully p3 grabs me the same way nocturne did back then.

Yeah, it's been a whle for me too.

After playing DDS 1, I can say without hesitation that I enjoyed it a great deal. This is one of the few games, that I'm willing to play again right after I beat it (I'm at the end, just doing sidequests), that and I want the bonuses in DDS2. I liked Nocturne at about the same level as DDS1.

You got me really excited tony, thanks for the info.

That sucks.

Either it sucks cause normal mode is easy, or it's good because normal is so hard they had to make an easy mode. Either way, you don't really know it sucks until you've played.

No.

It just sucks. Pretty universally accepted that Persona 3 normal mode is quiet a bit easier then Nocturne normal mode (even if it might have it's moments). Hard mode is something a lot of us looked forward to after completing a normal game.

Yeah, I want hard mode. Period. It's tradition.

it's stupid that hard mode wasnt included in this version. oh well that wont really matter, 'easy' megaten should still pack more challenge than most games from other series.

Even Devil Summoner: Raidou has hard mode.

This is why us not getting Fes is so disappointing. Fes has hard mode, but the normal doesn't. -_-

Whatever, I'm not really that troubled about it. Though Hard Mode was interesting in SMT: N. I never played a SMT game before and just jumped in on hard. Got my ass kicked numerous times.

Me too, but is the only way to find the real challenge of the game!

I'm really interested in knowing about the main characters...are they interesting and likable? Do they interact in a way that is entertaining?

I'm assuming they are, just considering the past Persona titles...

I think they are. You interact with them on a level that really wasn't necessary in the past games, but I suppose it depends on what you define as a thoroughly interesting character. For example, I can't stand ones I perceive as "whiny", regardless of how deep they might be otherwise...

But I'd say most people will be happy with this. The main characters I've met so far have all became likable very quickly.

That's good to hear. Thanks for answering :)

Tony ive got a question please.I have fes but i dont understand how getting arcanas to level up influence the nightlife, or it does on summoning personas? thanks!

This basically explains some aspects of this that might be too detailed for people. I've left it as inexplicit as humanly possible.

[SPOILER]Well, each person you can interact with on a deeper level has a Social Link level. This goes up to 10. Each Social Link is affiliated with a certain Arcana.

Say I level up my Social Link with someone affiliated with the Magician Arcana to level 5. This basically just involves spending time with them and being attentive to them and their needs.

If I went to the Velvet Room and tried to fuse a Magician Arcana Persona there will be a large bit of text on the details screen beforehand. It will, in this case, say "Social Link Level 4!" and list the bonus exeperience points the Persona will get when it is fused.

This bonus is substantial. Even on the earliest levels you can expect the lower end Personae to level up at least once, likely giving them some new moves. By 10 it's pretty significant.

This is the only way you can get new Personae that are above your level, as well. The initial fusion will have to be your level, but it doesn't matter what level they are after this bonus is applied. Let's say you're level 10, so the max demon you can fuse normally is also level 10. But after the bonus, it might be 11 or 12 or whatever. Hopefully that makes sense.

Your Social Link level can also affect other things, such as who you interact with. For example, there are some people who you can't really form a Social Link with until you make another level up first. One guy, for example, has to have his Link up to level 3 (I believe), before this other girl will talk to you (and she's a totally different Arcana affiliation)... to leave it as spoiler free as possible lol.[/SPOILER]

Thanks Tony! But i have one more question...(May contain spoilers!)

[SPOILER]When I dont get a certain level of teh commu I also cant summon that arcana personas?[/SPOILER]

Something else I want to mention about that which I don't quite understand in the game yet.

[SPOILER]
Say you have a Magician Arcana Persona in your group currently and you talk to the person with that Social Link. The game will say something like "You have such and such Persona of the Magician Arcana. You will get along well with this person". The game seems to imply that these links help even your existing Personae, but in which ways I have NO idea. I've not been able to figure it out yet.[/SPOILER]


[SPOILER]When you get a Social Link it's automatically Level 1. If you don't have it, it won't appear on your Social Link list in the status menu. HOWEVER, you can still summon any Persona you are capable of. Doesn't matter what Arcana it is. Social Links just make them stronger.

There are Personae you cannot summon without special items, spreads and so forth, however.[/SPOILER]

I see! Thanks Tony!

I just need to ask this: "Does Philemon appear in Persona 3?" It´s because I need to know to keep with the story of my manga, well the plot of it. Thanks!

Hello, I'm new here! Very new. Sick of waiting for Persona3 while lurking alone here, decided to register.

@ Emilio: [SPOILER]No, I believe Philemon doesn't.[/SPOILER]

Okay Perfect, now I can continue with the plot of my manga, thanks for the info!!

ok, i already feel stupid for asking this but does someone have a working recipie for fusing Jatayu? the ones I've found online don't seem to work.

**EDIT**
ok, I've sent this to the guy w/ the Gamefaqs one on fusions.

Bishamonten+Jikokten+Koumokuten=Jatayu

umm where is Yuko ? i cant find her

She only shows up on...Wednesday and Saturday,she is usually near the two stairs on the second floor of the school,mainly the way to the roof top.The other days,she isn't there due to practice,or it's a week before exams.

Thanks alot :xd: :xd:

I play games  more for story-line and  innovation then for an insane challenge. I just beat Persona 3 but I wouldn't call it easy by a long shot. It's true Nocturne and DDS were more difficult but does difficulty by itself make one game better then another? Personally I don't think so but that's just me.

For example DDS 1 and 2 were very hard but to me despite the nihilistic and unique religious elements and "demon eat demon" world they still were linear rpgs and not as good as other MegaTen titles. Sure choices you make in the first game effects the second game but that falls short of the myriad options you have in Nocturne and Persona  3. However DDS saga still manages to beat the ever living crap out of the usual cookie cutter rpgs. While not my favorites in the Megaten universe they still hold my respect.

I'm playing Persona 3 on game + mode just for the hell of it. It's rare when an rpg encourages me to play through a second and third  time. Chrono trigger was the last game that sparked just as much nostalgia in me as Persona 3 but that was years and years ago.

DDS made me play it right after beating it. Like a minute after, I just started it up again. But it was more the fact that I wanted to get the mantra grid mastered and do all the sidequests other than the demi-fiend. I never did actually master the grid, I think I was 1 or 2 away with everyone.

I was wondering if there is any benefit to keeping the Orpheus Persona? I mean he looks pretty cool and he's your character's default Persona so I'd like to think he's somewhat important but at the same time he stops learning attacks at level 6 and can be fused with other Personas.:mickey:

EDIT: I was also wondering what is the difference between normal personas and those who have the heart in their status page.

Those with hearts, will give you the item they are holding, once they've mastered all of their skills. (i.e Jack Frost will give you Frost cap).

As for Orpheus, I only bring him out and Asparas when I need to heal my party and raise their evasion for hard bosses, otherwise he's pretty much useless as you gain access to other Personas.

Later you need Orpheus  to fuse with Thanatos to create Messiah. But so long as he is in the compendium you can call him back at any time. If you get him powerful be sure to register him again so his stats are good when you re-summon him. Same goes for other personas too.

Is it true that you can fuse Fools to create an Orpheus that actually has decent skills to carry over to Messiah?

I don't think it's possible to get Orpheus through fusion.

? If I'm not wrong. . Orpheus can be created with Legion and Ose.
Btw, just asking. What do we need to create Orpheus Kai in FES?

Orpheus Kai does not have any weakness, but he is strong against everything (plus he has a good skill set). This means he's perfect for fighting Elizabeth.

Also, does anyone have a picture of Orpheus Kai?

I have a  question...are the special sexier costumes for the females only in Fes? I went  through the whole game but never equipped any items that changed the clothes of the female characters. It's not a big deal to me  I'd just like to know if standard P3 has alternate uniforms.

Nope, no alternate outfits, but the uniforms and out of school clothing do change based on the season.

Damn. Well, I was hoping at any rate. Thanks!

Answer me this -
How do I get Yuko to walk home with me? She always says she's busy. Shuld I ask her a bunch of times?

I REALLY WANT TOWER COMMUNITY!! -and I don't have much time...I think I'm at the end of the game!!!

Your charm needs to be high or maxed before you can be with Yukari. I didn't find it hard for me because charm seemed to be easier to raise than the other stats such as academics and courage. You can get charm by answering questions correctly and there is a tea place in the Paulowna mall that awards charm every time you go there. (You can also raise your courage there by doing Karaoke in the other place.) If you already  have your academics pretty high you can try  developing your relationship with Mitsuru first.

If you are going through the "hard hit" in the relationship that's already started it means Yukari is a bit miffed you either started to get close to another girl or she was upset you defended her from bullies.(She'll confess she's grateful for the help later but in the meantime she thinks having you rush in to rescue her made her lose face.) All this takes is being persistent  and continuing to talk to her until she finally agrees. I will say this. Treat your ladies with kindness and respect and don't try pimping them all at once. It doesn't work like a cheap badly done hentai dating game. All the characters have genuine feelings.

Does that apply to Yuko aswell? My charm is nearlt maxed btw.

About Orpheus Kai - There's a video on Youtube showing him. He's just a recolor or Orpheus(red & gold).

If Yuko is a separate character from Yukari I'm stumped. I know you could pursue the pretty gymnast girl that hung out with Kaz on the track team and the student counsel girl that was shy but I only went after the "main love interest". Chances are the gym girl is impressed with courage and I think the shy girl in student counsel requires a mix of charm and academics.

Gym girl is Yuko. I have maxed academics and courage(charm is nearly maxed), I also mastered the Chariot Arcana. Every time I ask her to walk home with me after practice, she says she's too busy.

I never had the problem, after Chariot lvl 3 (or 4) I asked her to walk home twice, and she did. She was the first relationship I started, though.

In order to date Chihiro, the Student Council Treasurer, you have to talk to her on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. Encourage her to obtain the S. Link.

I got the game two days ago and got to level 13 today I am wondering how to fix social links and was making the Valkyrie persona a good idea, and should I focus on Orpheus.

If you have Orpheus, Asparas is a must. Cadenza will save you in the early stages of the game, but after that, they're both useless (except in fusions).

Ok but he is my favorite you sure I can't level him up really high and he will be good.

All out attack+Spiked bat =Pwned.... ^^b