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Title: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 21, 2008, 12:18:18 AM
Oddly enough there doesn't seem to be a setting that disallows users to change their names. I'm looking into locking this down so any changes will have to be granted by admins. In the meantime for posterity sake, please change your name back if it isn't too much trouble. I need more time to figure out the policy on this.

I might just hack the system so you can have a nickname with your system name displayed at the bottom of your profile info.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 21, 2008, 12:24:41 AM
Can I seriously keep this for now...I think it's relatively easy to remember me...plus...everyone knows me as Q...soo...  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 21, 2008, 12:29:02 AM

You can keep it for now, cause otherwise I wouldn't have realized users were able to do this :doh:

BTW! Please let me know if anyone sees anything in your normal account that could be potentially exploitive...


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 21, 2008, 12:45:01 AM
Ok, found the setting!

If there is a lot of demand for name changing after the bbs is public, I'll look into setting it up in a sane way.

It will take a lot of hacking to make it work, so I'm in no hurry.

Also all name changes will be registered in a special thread.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 21, 2008, 01:06:42 AM

You can keep it for now, cause otherwise I wouldn't have realized users were able to do this :doh:

BTW! Please let me know if anyone sees anything in your normal account that could be potentially exploitive...
Do we get prize?  :dazed:

Q's discoveries:
-User titles.  Most websites don't really allow custom user titles due to pre-set ones, or them having you earn the ability.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 21, 2008, 02:11:40 AM
There are independent post level based titles. I erased the names, so you just see stars.

Btw, you can't declare yourself "DDDB Official" anything *points to your user title*

If user customizable titles become a problem I'll lock them so they must be changed by request.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: aerozero on August 21, 2008, 02:31:09 AM
I don't think User titles were ever locked here =\



Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 21, 2008, 02:46:49 AM
The new rules that will be put in place will be very minimal, but mischievous deception of users will be part of one of the two basic rules.

If people put like "Administrator", or "Official" this or that in their title, and won't leave it alone, then I'd rather lock the titles than even talk about banning someone.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: aerozero on August 21, 2008, 05:04:52 PM
Er, you're an admin, it's your job to talk to users who try to do stuff like that, warn them and if they continue to pretend to be admins, then banhammer time.

Locking up titles just because a few people don't follow the rules, ruins it for everyone else and that's pretty stupid IMO

Besides it's obvious that Qbasic's title is a joke (hahaha sorry Q)


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: Enid on August 21, 2008, 08:59:42 PM
I agree with aero.

Every forum will have it's run-in with newbs who don't follow the rules,or morons that like to provoke the staff and see just how fast you're gonna ban them,even if,to them it's just a joke....doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer over something like that.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 22, 2008, 12:36:55 AM
I don't think it's trouble to ask a moderator change your title. The problem with banning is once you start you just can't stop. Me and Jose have discussed the new rules for the bbs a little and seem to generally agree. New rules will be posted before the bbs goes public. We don't want to ever ban anyone. Banning on a bbs is not a cut and dry process. And once people start getting banned, forums tend to go to hell and die. Hypothetically if all it took to keep people out of trouble was locking a feature which is normally set by admin anyways (such as names or titles) is a small price to pay to keep things transparent.

The new bbs will be as free as any bbs can be, with no paranoia about authority. Anything you can do you can do, no laws per say. That means we'll just have to define what people can do more tightly. But at least there won't be any confusion.

The new board won't be heavily moderated, there will be no posting rules. There will be rules about how posters treat other posters, but only in a few circumstances. Moderators won't be able to delete or modify posts. And any locking will be temporary only for a day or less.

Karma will be given to users going out of their way to support the community, and will be taken away basically for any bullying. What karma actually amounts to we don't know yet. But it can only mean extra privileges, not less.

Admin wise this is going to be a very adult place.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: aerozero on August 22, 2008, 01:52:51 AM
If that's what Jose really wants, I'm fine with it I guess, though I still think it's strange to lock a feature that was available beforehand and that we've never really had any problems with =\

 

 


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: Heat on August 22, 2008, 02:29:55 AM
There are independent post level based titles. I erased the names, so you just see stars.

Btw, you can't declare yourself "DDDB Official" anything *points to your user title*

If user customizable titles become a problem I'll lock them so they must be changed by request.

Wow, are you kidding me? It's a stupid user title, and this is an internet forum -- who cares?!

Seeing as how the new ownership here kind of sucks, I guess I won't be wasting my time here. I'm also sure a lot of people don't appreciate the mass e-mailing and the public displaying of their e-mail addresses, by the way.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 22, 2008, 04:30:50 AM
If that's what Jose really wants, I'm fine with it I guess, though I still think it's strange to lock a feature that was available beforehand and that we've never really had any problems with =\

 

 

It isn't locked. It isn't what Jose want's per say. I'm not sure you should equate Jose with Tony. He's helped keep the site alive, but he hasn't really shown any interest in adopting it, or keeping tabs on it at all.

I'm basically what you get for now. We're trying to open up the site as much as possible without breaking it, so it shouldn't seem like there is any authority here in 99% of matters. If that bothers you, you'll just have to learn to live without a supreme dictator.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 22, 2008, 04:48:44 AM
There are independent post level based titles. I erased the names, so you just see stars.

Btw, you can't declare yourself "DDDB Official" anything *points to your user title*

If user customizable titles become a problem I'll lock them so they must be changed by request.

Wow, are you kidding me? It's a stupid user title, and this is an internet forum -- who cares?!

Seeing as how the new ownership here kind of sucks, I guess I won't be wasting my time here. I'm also sure a lot of people don't appreciate the mass e-mailing and the public displaying of their e-mail addresses, by the way.

We apologize. We used the forums newsletter feature, which I would've presumed to be BCC, but we didn't run a test experiment first.

The forum is back for posterity sake and anyone that wants to can use it, and with more freedom than ever. I'll see that technical matters are addressed in a timely fashion. But you shouldn't think of there being any ownership here, nor should anything we post to personal effect reflect the intent of the website's future.

As far as "ownership" goes, I'm told and there is no reason to doubt, the host is payed up for at least a year, and there are no current restrictions that will affect the bbs aspect of the site. So you can rest assured once the bbs goes back up it'll be good to go for a while, and honestly that is all the ownership should have to do with the site.

All non-security related aspects of the site will be up to the users more or less in time.

Bottom line the site admins aren't trying to be your friend, we're just keeping the site going, love us or hate us, it has nothing to do with the operation of the site. We've adopted this stance for your benefit. If you think it's gay that's just lovely. Feel free to post whatever you like.

At any rate, I will personally remove your email from the mass email that will go out to all registered users if you like, though I'll do what I can to make sure that one is more private if possible. In the future I recommend using an email that doesn't reflect your identity if you want to remain completely private. BBSes are the no-man's-land of online identity after all.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 23, 2008, 12:51:39 AM
There are independent post level based titles. I erased the names, so you just see stars.

Btw, you can't declare yourself "DDDB Official" anything *points to your user title*

If user customizable titles become a problem I'll lock them so they must be changed by request.

Wow, are you kidding me? It's a stupid user title, and this is an internet forum -- who cares?!

Seeing as how the new ownership here kind of sucks, I guess I won't be wasting my time here. I'm also sure a lot of people don't appreciate the mass e-mailing and the public displaying of their e-mail addresses, by the way.
It isn't crappy leadership.  It's just newbie leadership.

Personally, I'd love to take over.  But as you can see, there's a certain amount of "paranoia" going around here regarding me...


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 23, 2008, 01:00:34 AM
You can help, just give us some time to sort things out. I know Jose really bungled the site for a long time, but you don't have to worry now that I've access to things. If you don't like me, that can't be helped, but it shouldn't effect operation of the website. It's not like I should have to pretend to be someone I'm not just because I can make things happen. If nothing else I'm fair, and you will see my actions will back that statement up every step of the way.

This site isn't someone's baby anymore. You'll just have to get used to that. Tony dumped it, so it's up to the community to keep it alive, and I intend to see it is operated democratically and openly.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 23, 2008, 01:04:09 AM
You can help, just give us some time to sort things out. I know Jose really bungled the site for a long time, but you don't have to worry now that I've access to things. If you don't like me, that can't be helped, but it shouldn't effect operation of the website. It's not like I should have to pretend to be someone I'm not just because I can make things happen. If nothing else I'm fair, and you will see my actions will back that statement up every step of the way.
It's not that I don't like you.  It's just that Heat doesn't like you.  :sweatdrop:

Me personally, it's just easy for me to see that you're new at this sort of thing, and well, I wouldn't mind helping out a guy who's just getting hang of it.  I know I come off as strong, but...well.  Look at it this way:  I'm known as a complete dick at two other websites as well as in my office, but I still get da respek cause I try my best to lend them a hand.

Look on the bright side:  I ain't a dick in here.  :smokin:


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 23, 2008, 01:26:55 AM
I'm not inexperienced, I just intend to do my best to see this place is run differently than 9/10 social geek out boards -- which have a habit of getting really ugly and imploding, but mostly just being really unfair to too many users. Geeks can be really cruel when they're the majority  :ninja:


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 23, 2008, 01:38:25 AM
I'm not inexperienced, I just intend to do my best to see this place is run differently than 9/10 social geek out boards -- which have a habit of getting really ugly and imploding, but mostly just being really unfair to too many users. Geeks can be really cruel when they're the majority  :ninja:
Oh, duude...you haven't the faintest idea.   :biggrin:  Spill, one of the geekiest boards on the net.  Filled with assholes that are 10 different kinds of special.  One simple misquote, and saying you'll get crucified doesn't begin to cover.

However.  Spill is also the best community I've ever been on with it's leadership.  You see, "ugly boards"...are always the best boards.  I honestly don't know why...but they're very easy to manage.  No one ever breaks the rules over there, simply because they're way too afraid of the other members to do so. XD

It's ultimately up to you on how you wanna run the site.  Just be sure to give everyone some elbow room.  No one wants a dictatorship.  (In Spill's case...it's anarchy XD)


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 23, 2008, 09:56:03 AM
See, I think we're gonna try to setup the board so no one has to be afraid of anyone. Short of literal spamming (wasting board resources) any affront will basically be toothless as long as it is ignored. If it isn't ignored, then it's safe to say the community is interested in it, so there must be a need for it to exist.

The problem is I really don't have time to run this bbs on the social front or inspire any kind of cohesion. That will be up to the moderators if anyone. I'm just pledging to handle technical matters or delegate the responsibilities to capable and willing parties.


Basically you can imagine the board rules as one big Megaten game. Talk to people at your own risk, as if they were devils possessing god only knows personalities. We're not gonna tell people how to be, and incidentally that'll probably be karma rule#1 for users as well.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: QBasic on August 23, 2008, 10:19:51 AM
See, I think we're gonna try to setup the board so no one has to be afraid of anyone. Short of literal spamming (wasting board resources) any affront will basically be toothless as long as it is ignored. If it isn't ignored, then it's safe to say the community is interested in it, so there must be a need for it to exist.

The problem is I really don't have time to run this bbs on the social front or inspire any kind of cohesion. That will be up to the moderators if anyone. I'm just pledging to handle technical matters or delegate the responsibilities to capable and willing parties.


Basically you can imagine the board rules as one big Megaten game. Talk to people at your own risk, as if they were devils possessing god only knows personalities. We're not gonna tell people how to be, and incidentally that'll probably be karma rule#1 for users as well.
Dude.  Wrong attitude.

You're approaching this whole thing thinking all the members will automatically all be dicks, or spammers, or trouble makers.  Dude, those come once a blue moon.  All the big dicks and douchebags right now are way too busy playing Halo 3 and watching Nascar to care.  The internet...in a weird way, has become a more open-minded place...

Don't start preparing for some "surge" of annoying and mean cunt hairs.  Welcome everyone with open arms.


Title: Re: About name changing...
Post by: yksehtniycul on August 23, 2008, 10:25:40 AM
See, I think we're gonna try to setup the board so no one has to be afraid of anyone. Short of literal spamming (wasting board resources) any affront will basically be toothless as long as it is ignored. If it isn't ignored, then it's safe to say the community is interested in it, so there must be a need for it to exist.

The problem is I really don't have time to run this bbs on the social front or inspire any kind of cohesion. That will be up to the moderators if anyone. I'm just pledging to handle technical matters or delegate the responsibilities to capable and willing parties.


Basically you can imagine the board rules as one big Megaten game. Talk to people at your own risk, as if they were devils possessing god only knows personalities. We're not gonna tell people how to be, and incidentally that'll probably be karma rule#1 for users as well.
Dude.  Wrong attitude.

You're approaching this whole thing thinking all the members will automatically all be dicks, or spammers, or trouble makers.  Dude, those come once a blue moon.  All the big dicks and douchebags right now are way too busy playing Halo 3 and watching Nascar to care.  The internet...in a weird way, has become a more open-minded place...

Don't start preparing for some "surge" of annoying and mean cunt hairs.  Welcome everyone with open arms.

Thats why rules exist. A rule doesn't "automatically" cast dispersions on random passer-bys.

PS: Ever even heard of the "Megaten Haven", turns out a haven it was not!