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http://rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff13/ff13.html
http://rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff13versus/ff13versus.html
http://rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff13agito/ff13agito.html

It looks nifty but are two other games really necessary? Oh, Sqaure-Enix...D:

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Square is gonna blow up market like it was in 1997....

I think the only thing it's got going for it is the amazing graphics. I'm pretty interested in the battle system as well. :) Other than that...eh.

Let's just say, I'm not going to get a PS3 just for that game....:\

I dunno. It still looks incredibly similar to every other FF from 10 onwards (with upped graphics). I'd much prefer it if they concentrated on something new, although that will prolly never happen.

It bothers me that they're prepared to milk the game before it even hits store shelves. They know fans are going to buy anything with those words on it and in a way I think it's kind of sad on both sides of the fence.

I have extremely little interest in this game. I've been excited for XII for a while now, thanks to who was involved. However, the fact that the people in charge of a long line of FF games I couldn't care less about are back in charge for XIII really kind of just killed my potential interest right away.

It is nice to see the main character is a female, though.

Yeah, apparently the guy who worked on FFX and FFX-2 is working on this.

Uh oh.

I didn't like FFX and FFX-2 so that's a bad sign for me...

The main heroine looks a cross between Yuna and Ashe(despite she was designed by someone else)...oh, and I can't forget but a man? I'm not really interested in the character designs I've seen so far. Nothing new or original...but that's Nomura for you!

I'm not surprised there's already a figure ready to be sold of the main heroine. :\

I may not be hyped for it but I still would like to know how the battle system works in this one. I'm also curious about the locations...one place looked cool.

Meh. Isn't more than one version going to be released of this game? SE's gone milk-the-FF-cow crazy.

Hah! Get this....FF13 will be released before FF12 on PAL -

FF12 - 23rd Feb 2007

FF13 - 17th Nov 2006

I love SE.

There was a time when I respected and loved both Square and Enix.


Then they merged.


Vomiting and suicidal tendencies ensued.

well, there are supposed to be 3 version os FFXIII coming out. One done by the dude who did KH, and then of course the one done by the creator of X-2. But there is another one called FFXIII:AGITO coming to the mobile phone-- which will probably be Japan Only.

Wha? Just how many FF13 games are there?!

I'm now totally confuzzled.

Three, like said in the post above you.

Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Final Fantasy Versus XIII (I believe unannounced, but certainly PS3)
Final Fantasy Agito XIII (mobile phone title)

They were all announced at the same time.

I never understood the purpose of cellphone games...:\

Celklphone games are for people who are really bored at work, and can't afford to pull out their DS/GBA/PSP.

^LMFAO! XD When I'm bored at work...I usually whip out my I-Pod.

Now that FFXII has a DS game...I won't be surprised if FFXIII gets a DS and a PSP game along with it...x_x;

for some reason it made me angry when i saw pictures of FFXIII and XII isn't even out yet, they should focus on whats coming out soon, not whats coming out in a year. i bet they are going to realease XV before XIV...

The series just needs to...die already. How many do they plan to make anyway? One thousand? >_>;

As many as it takes till the money stops flowing. Although, I'll admit, I still like these games.;p

The Final Fantasy series, are good games, but since FF X I began to be dissapointed, because the game has not the same impact such as FFVII and FFVIII. The monster become so repetitive and the story was not as good as other FF. For me the best FF game was FFVIII (in story, characters, and a lot more).

Now is that FFX I as in the first FF10, or FF11?

Anyway, the series went downhill starting with VII.

^ Except for XII ;) ..... and maybe IX.

Tactics is my most favorite Final Fantasy game.

Apparently XIII is only 13% complete and XIII Versus is 1.3% complete.

Definitely except for XII. Never played IX.

^Well, I wasn't counting Tactics, but I also enjoy the original Tactics quite a bit. Okay how about this; everything from VII on, except when Yasumi Matsuno is involved (excluding FFTA) and maybe IX, sucks. ;)

I can agree with that totally.

<3 Yasumi Matsuno.

Man I totally forget about Tactics, that was another good FF game, I guess when this series goes to the best, occurs from FFVII, FF Tactics and FFVIII for the ps1. But in the case of other consoles, I think the worst game of FF was Crystal Crhronicles and one of the best was the first FF for the nes. And the other FF games were pretty good.

Most likely just an I, and not FFXI.
I have to disagree as well that the series went downhill. Although 4,5 and 6 were awesome, I enjoyed 7,8,9,10 and 12 more. The reason could be that those were my first RPGs(not 10 and 12, those came later), and I played the earlier ones later. Regardless, even if I was to replay them, which for sure I will in the years to come, I would still like the later Final Fantasies more. The only FF I did not like was 2, which I stopped an hour in. Nothing in it grabbed me and I was just bored shitless. I haven't played 3 yet, so no comment on that.

Otherwise, FF13 looks like what you'd expect from SE. I have a feeling it'll just be decent and nothing extraordinary. That is all my guess on the other version. I don't know which version is which, but I just get a bad feeling about the action one. As, with Dirge of Cerberus, I really can't believe that SE can pull off a good action game. Unless someone knows of an action game that SE made that is really good.

One thing that pisses me off about the latest FFs is the art style. The first FFs were your basic sprite-y RPGs on the SNES etc. I've played the PSone versions and they're quite nice. FF6 for me, is my favourite of the 2D generation. Then FF went to 3D and FF7 came about. The game had a really dirty, cyber-punkish vibe with its machinery, slums, super-spikey hair etc. The art style reminds me of manga and the harsh lines in the original artwork really correlate well with the themes and look of the game.
 
Then came FF8 - my all-time FF favourite - with it's more futuristic setting, very realistic characters and a full-blown love story. Although some hated it, others loved it and the style of the game is reminiscient of a fairytale set in some modern world. A brilliant game.

FF9 was next - the last of the PSone FF generation - and went back to basics. Something similar to the Job system was introduced to the characters (certain characters could steal, others cast Black/Blue/White magic etc) and the art style this time was quite cutesy and the models for characters were slightly deformed - almost chibi (well a little).
 So far, the PSone generation of FFs have all had different styles of art, design and such. Here's where FF started going downhill for me.

FF10 was released on the PS2 with a very similar character look to the models - it was as if FF8 had hopped to next gen. The game was....lacking in my opinion with the worst level up concept ever (I hate the bloody Sphere Grid). The lead was rather whiney and the love between the two leads never really reached that space scene in FF8.

After this a long time went by without a FF appearing on the PS2 (nope, I'm not counting X-2) and then FF12 was announced. I was already disappointed by FF11 being online and all, and other games had come out in FFs absence - Shadow Hearts, Lucifer's Call, Suikoden 4/5 - and then FF12 came out.

It's possibly the most disappointing and one of the biggest missed oppurtunities I've ever seen in a game.

First off, the art style - again - was of realism. After three generations of FFs having very different styles and the latest ones being rather similar, I was slightly disappointed to see it again. Ashe looks like Yuna in a punkier outfit and Vaan is Tidus with a haircut. However, Balthier and Fran looked like interesting characters. Ample character depth and development right? Hell no.
 Each character has very little character developement. Vaan is an orphan and hates the Empire (FF2). Ashe is a princess wants to reclaim her throne (FF9). The story is outlined to you in the first city (destroy the...can you guess?...Empire). The bad guy is obvious because he has long hair (I'm suprised it wasn't bloody SILVER - Kuja/Sephiroth/Organisation XIII) and is delightfully English (yawn). I can't ever remember finding out why he was so anxious to take over the world/Rabanastre.
 Plus, talk about missed opportunities. Example - there is a scene in Eruyt Village where Vaan asks Fran how old she is. She's a Viera so she lives much longer than humans do. An excellent moment for diving into this so far obscure character's history, here in her home village, right? Wrong. She huffs and walks off, whilst Balthier says that Vaan has offended her. Nothing important is ever mentioned about her again.

What?

Balthier has one little bit of development on the Phon Coast where you find out - gasp - [SPOILER]that his father is Cid[/SPOILER]. I mean, it's not exactly terribly original or very exciting. When I buy a FF, I want a skillfully woven story with twists and turns, various character sub-plots and the like. Not a save-the-world story and nothing else. I mean, nearly every RPG has a save-the-world plotline in there somewhere. It's how to hide it - Lucifer's Call gave you multiple endings, Shadow Hearts 2 [SPOILER]had Yuri killing himself to save his soul and the world he wanted with Alice[/SPOILER] and Tales of Symphonia's world saving was to create a world out of two split ones where people wouldn't discriminate against those who are different. All saving-the-world plots, but all have important, often very emotional sub-plots surrounding them. The end video of Shadow Hearts 3 made me cry for God's sake.

FF12 has no such luck - the character's are shallow (one word - Penelo) and therefore I didn't give a damn about their plight. The Empire - when I went there - was an alright place. Slightly snotty, but not exactly the black pits of hell I was led to believe it was. Why was it so important to stop them from taking over? Because of Nethicite or Nabudis? It sounds harsh, but in an RPG, levelling a town seemingly already ruined in the intro video the player has never been to isn't really enough to push me to kill the Empire - or rather one or two figures within it. Sure Vaine's a bastard but he's not exactly evil. He's not exactly Luca Blight.

Phew. Sorry for such a long post. With a lot of reviews online saying FF12 is the best thing since sex is rather annoying and I needed to rant at it a bit. It's that bloody Yiazmat I swear : D.

The point of that long-winded post? FF13 looks exactly the same but with an action twist. The characters have that SE "look" and, well - SE. Doing an action game. *sigh*

I've pretty much read what Lycanthroat said about 12,and..I'm one of the few,that doesn't think 12,is All that great.

I would have to agree with them on what they pointed out,the story didn't really excite me...it was pretty much the same as every other RPG.I didn't have any problems with the gameplay,but it was more of...that it was the characters that really didn't get me hooked into it..only one character I really liked was Balthier with his phrases and lines,Vaan wasn't too bad...but he was,just there most of the time.

One of the few? I have never seen an FF garner as much of a split between the fanbase as much as XII.

FFXIII looks like crap. FFXII is my last FF.

That's just how I see it...even the members on another forum I visit,enjoyed 12.So that's why I said,"one of the few",I don't see many who disliked 12.

I am interested in 13 though,this one looks to catch my interest than 12 did when it was first announced.

FFXIII is the anti FFXII to me. It's full of itself, flashy for no reason, and looks stupid.

The FFXIII universe will last 10 years? Are you really serious, Square Enix? We don't even know if we're going to like FFXIII's universe and they're saying it's going to last 10 years. It's so silly. On top of that, it looks like Advent Chidlren in game form. Advent Children is horrible. I think the final straw that broke the camel's back was learning that Shiva turns into a MOTORBIKE.

This is what happens when you let Tetsuya Nomura make a game instead of being an art slave.

I had heard about that 10 year run of 13 a while back,it is...pretty ridiculous.

But it doesn't surprise me Square Enix would come up with a stupid idea like that.

I thought Advent Children was cool. I haven't played XII yet, but it probably could've been better, the main guy behind it left in the middle of development.

XIII is flashy for no reason? Trailers are flashy so it'll attract attention and hype people up so they'll shell out $600 for a console.

FF13 looks bloated. The trailers where more focused on the frothing fanboys (females doing somersaults in skimpy outfits - check) than actually showing some gameplay. It seems the more money SE gets, the lesser the quality of the games. FF12 sucked arse, FF11 was a catastrophe (made much less money than they expected) for SE and Advent Children was a waste of time. Sure it was nice, but why not remake FF7? It's what SE seems to like doing best - remaking things. FF7 has various holes in it anyway - it had numerous sidequests and the such taken out before release so why not make it for a next gen console? It'd make SE truckloads of dosh which seems to be the only thing they care about these days.

On another note - are you telling me the PS3 is $600 in the US? Over here, the PS3 retails for about £450 - thats nearly $900.

It's 500, it just dropped price.

And we get how much you dislike SE already

Think that's what the FF7 Compilation is for...use FF7,then branch it out into different stories.

I'm all up for a FF7 remake,but it seems the FF7 side stories are to come first.I don't really see the point to it,besides the fact anything with FF7 slapped on there,means instant cash for them.

From what I can tell...and just by the fact that,SE picked FF7 out of all the other FF titles to expand the series,it would seem that FF7 made more of an impact than any other.

Whether you believe this to be fact,opinion,false or a load of crap..is all up to you;I'm just going by what has been shown to us.

Yes I do believe the PS3 was at 600,atleast when I bought mine at the beginning of this year.There was a recent price drop stated a while back.

I agree. FF7 was pretty big back when it was released. But it was 10 years ago - to be honest, I'm a little tired of all the FF7 spin-offs and the like. I'd rather they focus all their attempts on FF13 or 14. If SE did that, then a truly amazing game would come about (hopefully). Square and Enix were both awesome companies as I've said, so I'm truly at a loss for why their latest games have been somewhat lacking.

Wow - PS3 has already had a price drop :corkysm17

The 60 gb bundle is $500, but it's expected to be phased out by the fall, with the $600 80gb Motorstorm bundle taking its place.

If SE remade FFVII for the PS3, it would give me the final boost needed to go out and pick a PS3 up.  


http://www.nivel22.com/wp-content/images/juegos/f/Final_Fantasy_XIII/reducidas/Final_Fantasy_XIII_Versus_mini__9_.jpg

Her clothing doesn't looked that skimpy to me (heh, by my standards) and the game barely made any progress when it was shown (it was only 13% done last time the media checked up on it), plus it was just a CG Trailer, so how can you expect them to show any final gameplay mechanics?

I agree that Square Enix games haven't been good (was very disappointed in KH2) but I usually reserve final judgment on all upcoming games until I've actually played them myself.

LOL You serious?

Yeah dude. She can turn into a motorcycle and aid the player.

Final Fantasy is done.

I enjoyed FF-12 but I accept people are divided about that game. I liked the new battle system.license system, and the depature from angsty love sick teens, spikey haired guys with amnesia,mother obcessed villians,and the usual  "it is either completly good or completly evil!" approach. I'm not trashing FF 7 and FF 10. They were great rpgs but they didn't really hold my interest as long as FF4,FF6,FF tactics, and FF 12.

FF 13? Would it get me points docked if I said I'm not even remotely excited? I like girls in skimpy clothing doing somersaults sure but my interest of where FF is going as  a franchise has died out. Shiva turning into a motorcycle? WTF?! As if being a hot scantily clad ice woman summoned to do someone else's bidding isn't degrading enough...

No. In fact, you get points added in my book.

FFXIII looks horrible. First FF I've ever not been excited for in my 10 years of being a fan. I think that's a sign!

I wonder if Bahamut turns into an airplane. >_>

Seems like they realized "Transformers" would hit it big again so tried modifying a similiar concept. Don't think I don't love transforming robots...but transforiming espers?! Er, that's far fetched even for my kooky imagination to grasp. By now I guess  it is all about trends and making money. I can't critique a company for wanting to make a profit but FF-13 seems to be the beginning of the end for square/enix now all their good  ideas are exhausted.

Ark is a transforming summon...it changes from an airship to a mech!!!

Transform and rollout Espers!

I have a feeling this 10 year FFXIII thing is going be an Episodic Content deal.

Bahumut Prime here! Give up Sephy-tron! Sorry couldn't resist continuing the bad pun. lol. I can't believe this  present reality is going to last ten years and be  a series. Literally it'll be like episodes in one big movie and fans will have to keep buying new games to understand it all. No thanks square/enix. I'm smarter then you give me credit for. I liked times of old where each FF was a self contained  story and  you could enjoy each game on its individual merits.

That sentence actually made me a little sad. This is one thing the FFs have always been famous for, and they're even changing that?

RIP

Well they started doing away with that when they made a direct sequel to FF10, came out with Advent Children, and added to that pile with Dirge of Cerebus. I'm not trying to imply every sequel is bad but as I said each FF game used to be a complete self contained epic saga with no weird spin offs.

They want to milk the cash cows

Yeah. Not that I didn't think Advent Children was awesome eye candy mind you. I don't know  what to think of Dirge of Cerebus because I haven't played  it. Know if it is any good Neao?

I've played DoC,even though it was short.I thought it was pretty good.

Nothing grand or "freakin' awesome",but it was decent,in my opinion.Everyone else disagrees,or thinks it was such a waste.Regardless,I still enjoyed it,even if it was short.

I'm more relieved with the fact,they didn't kill Vincent's image as a character,we got to learn more about him,they decided to expand his role even further than just being some "optional character",besides the fact of being the main character of his own game of course,there was also Chaos that helped his story to be expanded.

That's basically the good points I liked in this game,even if it was short...the way I see it,you can only do so much for a character who didn't have that much to do in the first game,without overdoing it in this one,y'know?

Other fans believe that the story could have been better or well written I guess some might say... ...overrall,I think it was put together nicely.I mean,it could have been the worse plot ever.

I figured as much Enid. DOC sounds much like Parasite Eve 2. I thought it was a great game but just because Square had taken a risk by doing a survival horror shooter/rpg hybrid a lot of the "hardcore fans" made a big stink about it. Some of the people that bitch SE does nothing but generic rpgs need to realize they're to blame. Why? Because each time the company tried doing something a bit different,innovative, or mature themed hardly anyone would support it. I even liked Bouncer though it would have been much cooler if there had been a two player co-op mode. However it did come out early on the system as a "first gen" PS 2 title before programmers knew how to do much with what they were given.

Personally,I think the controls and the gameplay could have been better in DoC,but trying something new never hurt.

Yeah I remember Bouncer,I watched my friend play it,she liked it.

The bad thing about cerberus ---> Camera + Shooting mode #_#

Well SE has made rpgs so long jumping to something else out of the blue was  likely difficult on the programmers. No offense but to me the game looked like a Devil May Cry rip off. Not that I don't think Vincent is cool. He was one of my favorite characters from FF7.

That's what a lot of people said when it first came out,it was a DMC ripoff.

I dunno...personally,I had more control with Dante than I did with Vincent.But for the camera,as Kryuzei stated,it wasn't fun trying to work with it while aiming.